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plyhammer  



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:30 am    Post subject: 924 sloppy shifter Reply with quote

I would like to tighten up the shifter. The transmission is tight but the shifter has all kinds of play in it. Is this an easy fix in which I can change a bushing or something from under the shift boot or is this a "take the tranny out" type of thing in which case I will live with it.
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Smoothie  



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a pin on the shifter that the shift rod pivots on and it wears to an egg shape over time. That should be the source of a good bit of the looseness. I took a lot of the play out of mine by wrapping that egg-shaped part with just enough plastic electrical tape (prestretched and wrapped tight) to take out the play and serve as a bushing. I fit a wide washer on the end before replacing the C-clip to inhibit the tape from sliding out sideways over time. That's the quick-easy-cheap fix. Another option is to grind the pin off, drill the lever and fit a bolt or a bolt and bushing to replace the pin. -Or you could buy a new shift lever. Bushings at the gearbox end can be worn too, but I haven't messed with them yet.

Also, there were at least 2 different shifters used, so your model, year and gearbox type (snailshell or Audi) would be useful.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:20 am    Post subject: new to this Reply with quote

I am really new to the porsche scene. How would I tell which tranny I have?
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D Hook  



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you tell people what year your car is, whether or not it's a turbo or N/A (normally aspirated), that would help alot. Turbo's came with a different tranny, early year models were only 4 speeds, later only 5 speeds. So please post your year, model, turbo or N/A.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:43 am    Post subject: yup Reply with quote

my 924 is no turbo but for $400 it is definately fun to drive! Weeeee
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My924gtc  



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is also a '79 and that is important. Ply you have a "snailshell" style tranny.

If you go into your profile and change your 'signature' to read

1979 924 NA or some thing to that affect

that will eliminate a lot of guesswork for people trying to help you.

Just take a look at others signatures and include some useful info.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I said above applies to the Audi style shifter. If you have the Porsche snailshell type (made by Getrag if I'm not mistakin'), the quick-easy plastic tape trick might still work, but you have another option - replace the bushings at the shift lever. You'll have 2 rods attached to the lever with 2 pins and need a total of 4 of these bushings - part # 999.924.002.40
It's real easy with the Audi style, but someone else would have to fill you in as to the ins 'n outs and how much fun it is/isn't to do with the snailshell-type shifter. -And if you're bushings at the gearbox are more likely to need to be messed with as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:45 am    Post subject: thanks everyone Reply with quote

thank everyone
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait a second... Even if the car is a -79, it could still have a Audi-style gearbox. If it's a 4 speed, anyway...

Smoothie wrote about the quick&cheap solution to the front end of the shift rod, the same tactics can be used on the rear end of the Audi-style shift linkage.

The linkage ends on top of the audi-style gearbox:
http://www.shell.linux.se/magnusk/projekt/bilder/20040629_panikmek03.jpg

Its the part looking behind the vertical lever thats most likely to cause the problems with a sloppy shifter. This part is made of plastic, and wears out... This part is pretty expensive if you buy it from Porsche, seems to be included in part no: 477 711 103 B...

Simply add som electrical tape in the pins:
http://www.shell.linux.se/magnusk/projekt/bilder/20040630_terapimek02.jpg

Worked for me during this summer anyway!

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the 4 speed was discontinued in the US after 1978? Might be wrong. I have had a few '79 come through here and all were 5 speeds.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: She is a 5 speed Reply with quote

5 speed
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My924gtc wrote:
I thought the 4 speed was discontinued in the US after 1978? Might be wrong. I have had a few '79 come through here and all were 5 speeds.

Ah, sorry... I got a Euro-spec car, and they came with a 4 speed Audi tranny as standard...

plyhammer - You got the snailshell, then! I don't have any experience with those so... Good luck anyway!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


I can't resist a nice cheap-easy tape repair, and a slight improvement just occurred to me while looking at your second pic, Magnus. -And I'll be using it on my own tape repair at the front when that needs redoing... The idea is to simply put a piece or two of heat-shrink tubing over the tape and shrink it down - that should hold the tape repair together, keeping it from unpeeling, plus the thicker, glossy heat-shrink provides a reasonably tough and slippery surface which should extend the life of the fix.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoothie wrote:

I can't resist a nice cheap-easy tape repair, and a slight improvement just occurred to me while looking at your second pic, Magnus... *snip*

Ah! Great idea, Smoothie! I already got the tranny out of the car and the shift rod is also disassembled so my car will be the guinea pig (spelling?) for this experiment! I think it's best to combine tape and heat-shrinking tube, coz I needed two layers of tape for my previous repairs...

Hehe, it'll probably be red shrink tube for my repairs... I hope it works with the Indishrot on the outside!

/Magnus, who likes cheap repairs at the moment! (unemployed! )
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am thinking that as a more permanent fix you could cut the pivot stud/bolt off, drill a new hole and fit a coach bolt, using a slightly smaller hole you could have a pressure fit, or use a double ended stud, tap the new drilled hole and have enough length on the stud protruding to secure with a locking nut.
The only thing needed might be to cut the extra threaded length off the end of the stud at the free end.
For a semi permanent fix make a sleeve out of brass/steel piping and slip this over the pivot stud.

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