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sleepy

Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 63 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: multimeter |
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I'v bought a multimeter to check the output of the battery when the ignitions off & pull fuses to find whats draining too much & causing the batt to slowly go flat (an exercise that ozzie was kind enough to explain in detail).
Only problem with my new, bright yellow, 32 position digital multimeter is........ -i don't know how to use it
if anyone could point me in the right direction i'd be hugely gratefull!
the positive test lead can be pluged into a 2A max jack or a 10A jack or a jack for measuring voltage ( V/something that looks like a doornob )
there are 5 sections of settings: A---, A~, V~, V---, the doornob pic.
Each section has settings like this: 10, 2, 200m, 20m, 2m, 200u, 20u.
I'd also like to know which setting i need to find which is the ignition wire & battery wire to connect the stereo.
All I know is that i need to read milliamps, I blame my ignorance on not being taught enough about electrics in school
cheers
-Sleepy _________________ meteor silver 1981 924 lux. -UK |
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augidog

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 1360 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Lizard wrote: | | take an ohm meter and put 1 side on the neg term and the other on the neg wire and then pull fuses till you dont see as much of a draw, if that makes sence to you |
Its like he's still here  _________________ 1978 924 95 mile daily driver.
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MunkPuppy

Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 419 Location: New Westminster, B.C., Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Ok I think I covered this in another post, but I can't be bothered to find it, so here it is again, slightly abbreviated.
The "doorknob sign" you speak of is the OHM symbol, which is a measure of resistance (holding back current).
To check for which wires have power when the car is on or off is a simple task.
Set your multimeter to V--- with the red test lead plugged into the 10A hole.
With your ignition key set to off (or just leave the key out), check for wires that read approx 12 volts. (Don't bother checking brown wires, they're all ground wires)
Then, put the key back into the ignition and start your engine. Make sure that ALL accessories like heater fans, radios, defrosters, and such are off. Now, check for wires that read between 12 and 14 volts. (Don't bother checking the ones that read voltage while the car is off). That about does it.
Incidentally, if you get readings of lower than 12 volts while the car is off, either the battery needs charging or replacement. If you get readings of lower than 13v or higher than 15v while the engine is running, your voltage regulator may require replacement.
Hope this helps. _________________ '80 931 FOR SALE
"It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful"
-Anton Szandor LaVey
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MunkPuppy

Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 419 Location: New Westminster, B.C., Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I forgot to mention, to check for battery drain:
Put the red lead of your multimeter into the 10A hole.
Disconnect the negative power lead from the battery.
Turn the knob of your multimeter to the 10A setting.
Connect the black test lead of the multimeter to the body (or the negative lead of the battery), and the red test lead to the negative post of the battery.
Then do as Lizard's ghost suggests, and pull fuses until the current load drops on your meter. There's your leak!
Here's a very recently posted link for fuses and what they... fuse. http://www.m-elliott.us/Porsche/FAQ_Main.htm#fuses _________________ '80 931 FOR SALE
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Peter_in_AU

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 2745 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:55 am Post subject: |
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to check for current drain, connect the positive lead/probe to the 2A socket and switch the doornob to the highest number in the A--- (DC amps) range.
Make sure the car key is off. Remove the negative/ground battery cable, switch on the multimeter and connect the multimeter between the battery negative post and the negative battery cable:
Battery -ve -----(negative meter lead)-----> Multimeter Ground/Common
Multimeter 2A -----(positive meter lead)-----> Negative battery cable.
Put a bit of paper, wood, plastic etc under the battery cable so it doesn't touch the body or any metal. A couple of alligator or bull clips will make it easier to connect the probes to the battery post and battery cable.
When you make the connection your multimeter will probably give a high reading (up to 500ma) as your CD player resets itself. Wait 15 seconds or so until the reading drops down and stabilises.
You can now turn the doornob rotary switch to a lower number (still within the A--- range) to get a more accurate reading.
Now check the fuses. Note what the reading on the multimeter is, pull out one fuse and check to see if the reading on the multimeter drops. If the reading drops make a note of the position of the fuse. Put the fuse back in and go an pull and check the next fuse.
If pulling out any of the fuses caused a drop in the multimeter reading pull out your Haynes and find out what that fuse is connected to.
If none of the fuses caused a drop in reading post the reading you get on your multimeter and we'll go on to stage 2. _________________ 1979 924 (Gone to a better place)
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1982 924 (As featured on Wikipedia)
Learn to love your multimeter and may the search be with you |
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sleepy

Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 63 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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thanks guys. So am i right in thinking 10 is the highest reading, 200m is 200milliamps & 200u is something smaller. _________________ meteor silver 1981 924 lux. -UK |
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, the "m" suffix is milli (1m = 1/1000 or 0.001), "u" (actually "µ" or "μ") is micro (1µ = 1/1,000,000 or 0.000001)
I never had a meter that was marked with the "---" and "~", but apparently "---" is DC and "~" is AC, so
A--- is DC Amps
A~ is AC Amps
V~ is AC Volts
V--- is DC Volts
and of course the omega symbol "Ω" is Ohms (resistance) _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing to add here. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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kaffine
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 644 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| MunkPuppy wrote: | Ok I think I covered this in another post, but I can't be bothered to find it, so here it is again, slightly abbreviated.
The "doorknob sign" you speak of is the OHM symbol, which is a measure of resistance (holding back current).
To check for which wires have power when the car is on or off is a simple task.
Set your multimeter to V--- with the red test lead plugged into the 10A hole.
With your ignition key set to off (or just leave the key out), check for wires that read approx 12 volts. (Don't bother checking brown wires, they're all ground wires)
Then, put the key back into the ignition and start your engine. Make sure that ALL accessories like heater fans, radios, defrosters, and such are off. Now, check for wires that read between 12 and 14 volts. (Don't bother checking the ones that read voltage while the car is off). That about does it.
Incidentally, if you get readings of lower than 12 volts while the car is off, either the battery needs charging or replacement. If you get readings of lower than 13v or higher than 15v while the engine is running, your voltage regulator may require replacement.
Hope this helps. |
Do not put your red lead into the hole marked 10A when checking for voltage you will blow the fuse if it's a good meter or fry the meter if it's a cheap one. When checking for voltage the red lead needs to be plugged into the hole labeled with V Ω.
Also when checking for key off draw shut the interior light off so it doesn't come on when you open the door. Also it is recommend to start off with the highest amp setting on your meter just in case there is a large key off draw it's less likely to blow the fuse in the meter. _________________ 80 924
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