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What and where is the PVC?

 
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Mike924  



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: What and where is the PVC? Reply with quote

I've recently noticed that there seems to be oil weeping from the filler cap (making a mess of my cam cover! )

A recent post from Ozzie indicated that this could be due to a blocked PVC, which (hopefully) can be easily cleaned out. Only problem is, I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for.

Can any of you guys help?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooops! I meant PCV
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Left rear side of lower engine block. It looks like a dome with a large diameter hose coming out of it. I like to pop it right off the side of the block and soak it in GM Top Engine cleaner. After that a good spritzing of carb cleaner and it's like new.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, PVC is polyvinylchloride. PCV is positive crankcase ventilation (aka- the engine breather system) - it vents the cylinder blowby back to the intake. Back in the old days, it was just released to the atmosphere, but since pollution control became important, manufacturers have been routing these gasses back to the intake. For a 924NA, the system consists of a metal breather fitting that's mounted through the engine block below the intake manifold toward the rear of the engine. You should find a line from there to air filter box. The metal breather can be come clogged as can a small orifice that's installed within the line more toward the airbox end.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Dan.

I'll try that - sounds messy though...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoothie wrote:
Actually, PVC is polyvinylchloride.


Yes, thanks, Smoothie - whence the typo!

I think the routeing is slightly different on later/Euro cars, but now that I know what I'm looking for, I'll sort it out.
Thanks, Guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old is your oil filler cap? You can replace it with a new VW one for cheap, it cured my oil leak onto the cam cover.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoothie wrote:
...For a 924NA, the system consists of a metal breather fitting that's mounted through the engine block below the intake manifold toward the rear of the engine. You should find a line from there to air filter box...


Mike924 wrote:
I think the routeing is slightly different on later/Euro cars...


Yep. Routes to the plastic cylinder that joins the 2 intake boots rather than to the airbox
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chrenan wrote:
How old is your oil filler cap? You can replace it with a new VW one for cheap, it cured my oil leak onto the cam cover.


Thanks, Chrenan. It's probably the same age as the car.

I'll have a go at cleaning out the PCV pipes & stuff; if that dosen't fix it, I'll get a VW filler cap.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tj924 wrote:
Routes to the plastic cylinder that joins the 2 intake boots rather than to the airbox


Thanks, TJ.

Sounds like a good place for gunge to accumulate and cause a blockage...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hose broke when I tried to remove it.
A new hose from the dealer here was $120.
I replaced it with a hose that had no orifice, put a rubber bung (plug) in one end far enough so I could fit the hose, then drilled the plug.
Cost $10.
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