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Miss adjusted Valves need info PLZ

 
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MrKrik  



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Miss adjusted Valves need info PLZ Reply with quote

Hyey guys.. had a machine shop do some work on my head and they returend all teh buckets unmarked in a speerate bag.. so now i need to adjstu teh valvse.. but i dont have teh proper guide... what should the clearence be when fuklly closed.. i got a feeler gauge and teh proper allen key jstu no specs.. thanks guys
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Jaf  



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Miss adjusted Valves need info PLZ Reply with quote

MrKrik wrote:
Hyey guys.. had a machine shop do some work on my head and they returend all teh buckets unmarked in a speerate bag.. so now i need to adjstu teh valvse.. but i dont have teh proper guide... what should the clearence be when fuklly closed.. i got a feeler gauge and teh proper allen key jstu no specs.. thanks guys


Haynes book says with a cold engine Intake is 0.10mm (0.004 in), Exhaust 0.40 mm (0.016 in). Seems to be the same with all 924 engines. But I'm sure someone will correct me if necessary!

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tux  



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Jaf said! ^^^

The Haynes does say that after machine work the final adjustments should be made with a warm engine (oil temp at approx 80c) and the clearances should be
intake 0.20 (0.008)
exhaust 0.45 (0.018)

Don't know how "essential" this is though.
Good luck dude.
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Mike924  



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tux wrote:
The Haynes does say that after machine work the final adjustments should be made with a warm engine (oil temp at approx 80c) and the clearances should be
intake 0.20 (0.008)
exhaust 0.45 (0.018)

Don't know how "essential" this is though.
Good luck dude.

I've only ever done mine cold and never had any issues with doing it that way.

P.S. MrKirk - Never ever go back to that machine shop!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done mine cold too with no problem once the tappets were put back in the right order with the proper adjusters.
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torro  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a rebuilded engine cheap, but it was not running right. I tried to adjust the valves, but 2 of the adjusters could not open enough clearance and 2 other were sitting in too deep. Probably mixed up the buckets and I have to take out the cam and swap the tappets.

The clearance on the European engine should be:

Cold:
0,15mm intake
0,45mm exhaust

Warm:
0,25mm intake
0,50 exhaust

US specs. + 0,05mm

I got no pings with 10 BTDC and this clearance, but I am 0,20mm short on one exhaust- and 0,05mm short on one intake valve....one hour job for just 0,25mm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

torro wrote:
I got a rebuilded engine cheap, but it was not running right. I tried to adjust the valves, but 2 of the adjusters could not open enough clearance and 2 other were sitting in too deep. Probably mixed up the buckets and I have to take out the cam and swap the tappets.

mixed up yes change them around may take a few times but it will most likely work.
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torro  



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, It did take some time, but now all of my valves is perfectly adjusted.

Now it is my mixture that might need some adjusting:

CO %vil - 2.82
CO2 %vol - 6.7
O2 %vol - 9.1
HC ppm vol - 138 (particles per meter/metre or minutes, not sure)

The readings are well withing the requirement in Norway. The CO reading is probably a bit high, but not as high as it would be if one of the valves were damaged?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CO reading is a lttle higher than the official range of 1 - 2%, but I think the cars run better betweem 2.5 and 3% (where mine is set). If the 2.8% figure is legal in your country then I would leave it at that.

The HC reading (particles per metre cubed) is very good for an older car.

The O2 reading seems high, but I'm not sure if it's a problem.

Where did you get the readings done?

I isn't clear to me how valve damage directly affects the CO reading.
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torro  



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the car at the emission test and I got the printouts from the. The timing is set at 10 BTDC, might be over-advanced, but I have no pings. No catalyst or other emissions stuff. EGR is totally ditched, just 2 vacum lines is left and no Charcoal canister either.

Could it be that the combustion chamber is getting too hot, as if one or several exhaust valves is not open long enough to release hot air and causing high O2 reading? Or could the header wrapping cause too high internal temp? I like my engine room cool and the hot manifoil is now wrapped.

....lots of speculations
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

torro wrote:
The timing is set at 10 BTDC, might be over-advanced


That's sounds about right. . .mine idles at 9, with 36 total advance.

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