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2Fast

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 459 Location: Klamath Falls, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: Help needed.....Fuel delivery/electrical/Haynes Manual |
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Okay well a while back I realized that no fuel was getting to the engine...So i finally decided to get on it...Well on page 79 in your haynes manuals is where I started....Under "7 Fuel supply - tests and fault finding". Well im going right threw them...and 5 says to make a jumper lead out of a 8 amp bottle fuse....
Does that look right??? Well i followed threw...and 750cc's of gas did not come out the Fuel return line....none did. So i went on to the next step...it says to remove something called a "HT lead" from the coil. That is where I stoped...because I have no idea what a "HT lead" is...so can somebody explain to me what it is??? _________________ =====>Alex<=====
1979 Porsche 924 NA 5spd
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Its the one that goes to the center of distributor cap. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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2Fast

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 459 Location: Klamath Falls, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | Its the one that goes to the center of distributor cap. | Thats it??? Thats easy lol _________________ =====>Alex<=====
1979 Porsche 924 NA 5spd
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: |
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BTW, I think the key needs to be ON for the jumper to work. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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2Fast

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 459 Location: Klamath Falls, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | BTW, I think the key needs to be ON for the jumper to work. | Ya...i know lol. I just did the test with the HT lead off...and still no gas.... ...so that means its gonna cost more to fix it...dang _________________ =====>Alex<=====
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Yep, sounds like fuel pump time. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Was the pump running- are you sure there is some in the tank?
Someone here recently went thru all the checks to discover (a long time later) the tank was empty.
The fuel gauge lies _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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2Fast

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 459 Location: Klamath Falls, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Ozzie wrote: | Was the pump running- are you sure there is some in the tank?
Someone here recently went thru all the checks to discover (a long time later) the tank was empty.
The fuel gauge lies | Well i poured some in there...but not a whole lot....its less then a gallon im sure... _________________ =====>Alex<=====
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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I'd put more than that 2-3 gallons at least. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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2Fast

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 459 Location: Klamath Falls, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| Ozzie wrote: | | I'd put more than that 2-3 gallons at least. | Okay, ill go and fill up the gas can and give it a try again...ill keep you guys posted... _________________ =====>Alex<=====
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Before replacing your pump, make sure you're getting voltage at its terminals with your jumper in place, to ensure your jumper is working as intended. _________________ 78 924 NA
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2Fast

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 459 Location: Klamath Falls, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| !tom wrote: | | Before replacing your pump, make sure you're getting voltage at its terminals with your jumper in place, to ensure your jumper is working as intended. | Oh thats a good point....ill do that, thanks !tom _________________ =====>Alex<=====
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datatrain

Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 441 Location: Osoyoos, British Columbia
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: Spade lugs |
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From the look of your jumper I wonder if your actually making contact with the relay connections. I put spade lugs on mine and it slid right into the relay socket.
DAve _________________ '78 924 NA with Collector plate
33 year old car, with me for 21 yrs
Mint '92 318i BMW
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: fuelly pump |
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With the iginition 'on' and after waiting a few minutes, the fuel pump should be warm to the touch if it's not spinning. At least that is what happened when I checked out the one in my 'new' '77. I pulled the pump, and applied voltage to the terminals. The motor would 'kick' as I applied and reapplied voltage to it, but not turn. Was ready to toss it, but I whacked the aluminum 'head' back and forth trying to dislodge it to see what effed it up. On a lark, I put the voltage back on it, and gesus, the thing worked! Not recommending this as a way to fix these things, but I can now try to get the '77 started, and not have to buy a new pump. For now anyway, I'll get a new one when needed. _________________ '83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
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Buwani 931

Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Napa California
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Spade lugs |
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| datatrain wrote: | From the look of your jumper I wonder if your actually making contact with the relay connections. I put spade lugs on mine and it slid right into the relay socket.
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Thats what I was thinking. Heres a photo of a long version I made so I can switch it on and off while working up front. I also have a short version, less the switch.
Shawn _________________ 1980 931
That's thirty minutes away. I'll be there in ten. |
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