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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9102 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: EFI rail and injector bungs |
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Not really a performance mod...but something to make performance mods work
I've read around that a certain Ford mondeo fuel rail is a PERFECT fit...is it really? Anyone of you guys using it? i'd rather go to the brakers and get one instead of buying a custom rail or making one.
What about injector bungs? where can i get a set of screw-in ones ? just to replace the factory ones...i dont want to mod the head one bit. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ford Duratec engines have a bore spacing of ~96mm, our engine is ~95mm. I have one fitted to my car OK, but you need to fit a fuel return line fitting as its a no-return system (Which is generally bad) _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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034 Motorsports makes injector inserts, or you can buy 4 transaxle plugs and use them. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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RC

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Or you can simply get new stock inserts bored out. Don`t know if Endwrench is still doing them as he hasn`t been around lately.
Look in the 4sale section for a rail and insert kit. |
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71vdubturbo

Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Rolla, Missouri
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'm using a Mitsubishi Eclipse GST fuel rail with it's stock fuel pressure regulator (since it is boost referenced). It isn't exact on the injector spacing, I think it is off by 1 mm. I did have to drill the injector holes of the rail with a 35/64 inch drill bit to accept the bosch injectors. For injectors, I use stock VW 1.8T injectors, which are 30 lb injectors. I am also using the 034 motorsport inserts.
Just thought I'd give you an idea of some other possible options. _________________ 1977 Porsche 924 - going away...
2001 Audi S4 - 2.7T, Tip |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9102 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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thankyou very much. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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haroldk
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 171 Location: St Paul, MN, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I've got a spare rail for my Focus (with the Zetec) and it looks like the spacing is pretty much spot on. It's got a Ford fuel line fitting bolted to one end and what looks like a blanking plate bolted to the other. I keep meaning to pull it off and see if it's actually open on that end. If so, it'd be dead simple to get another one of the fittings and put one on each end for a return line. It might also be easy enough to make a plate with whatever fitting you want, but I haven't seen what the sealing surface looks like yet. |
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xpernet

Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 414 Location: Kitchener, Ontario Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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I used a fuel rail off of a 1993 Ford Escort. Comes with a pressure regulator & return line, and bosch injectors fit perfect. I didnt use injector inserts and the fit is not bad at all. No leaks so far *knock on wood* _________________ 1977 Porsche 924
Sunroof Delete
Megasquirt II EFI & EDIS
Carrera GTS / 944 Body
"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." Ferdinand Porsche |
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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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How do you get a seal without some sort of insert?
I drilled a recess into the top of eachinjector hole about 5mm deep so the injector O ring would seal properly.
To check for leaks I use some brake cleaner, with the engine runing a little squirt on each joint will quickly show if you haev a leak as the engine will stumble a bit. I've got a slightly leaky thropttle spindle and I found 2 injector seals ahd gone with this method a while ago. _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec |
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alexvex
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 420 Location: Seattle, WA (from Indiana)
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: |
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If anyone needs escort fuel rails I've got several sitting around  _________________ --Alex--
1992 Porsche 968 (VW 2.5L I5 Turbo swap in the works)
1995 Audi 90 Quattro Sport (4.2L V8 Swap)
2010 Touareg TDI
Past Pcars: 80 931, 87 924S, 87 951 |
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