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kamyio  



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:37 am    Post subject: Crazy Reply with quote

So you guys have been the best help with reviving my old 1976 Porsche 924. After a year, it finally began running about a month ago after sitting for 17 years. She is my baby, and I love this car more than the world.

But.

Going through the local scrap yard the other day I found out that there is a 1979 Porsche 924 had just come in. I took as many engine parts as I could as back-ups, but then I got a wild idea. Getting these cars out of the scrap yard aren't that expensive and I've always just wanted to go full out on a Porsche 924 in styling (I'm a design major).

Adding a kit should be no problem, I am actually searching for a more Italian look with this Porsche, as well as a mordern Porsche look. But the hard part, the making it into a modern sports car is obvious. Creating a mid-engine Porsche 924.

It's dumb right? Why destroy a Porsche 924? Is it even possible? And that's why I am coming to you guys for information, should I really persue this idea? Or should I give up before it gets ridiculious?

Thanks so much for being one of the greatest forums I will have ever been on.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it

If its in a boneyard, you are saving not destroying.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

giving up an ideea is bad but styling a porsche in italian ways is even worse

if you are a design major i'd like to see your ideas of how to modernize the 924. i've tried myself but opinions are shared...some say i did it..some say it looks like a japanese car from the front

to see what i'm talking about follow the link in my signature to my cardomain page.

You dont have to make it mid engined. Sure..you could...but you'd go too far in my opinion. If style is what you're looking for...the transaxle setup is just enough
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go out and get yerself a 911 engine and tranny, hog out the middle of the 924, weld in a bunch of mounting bracketry, throw out the 924 engine, torque tube and tranny, hook it all up and drive. You then have a huge honking front trunk for your golf clubs and one hellaciously noisy POS.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morghen wrote:
giving up an ideea is bad but styling a porsche in italian ways is even worse



I disagree.



http://www.autoclub.com.au/2006/10/porsche-cayman-based-studiotorino-rk.html

The wheels might be the only thing I take issue with but this and the current Lambo's are a good example of a German/Italian mix. You do have to be careful of course but it can be done.



This RK Coupe was tastefully done but to each their own taste, right?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

then we agree to disagree
i think they wasted their times and a perfectly good Porsche if they built such a thing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morghen wrote:
then we agree to disagree
i think they wasted their times and a perfectly good Porsche if they built such a thing


No problem. We can disagree Isn't that what we do here?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SO not true.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, thanks for the comments guys! So in class I did a little sketch up, I know there are some proportion problems, but lets just say there may have a need for a lot of putty...


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

search 'applebit' his car took on that transformation already. some people like it, some don't. I like the skinny 924 look, and the GTC look as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kamyio , where in Wisconsin are you?

I say go for it, what's to lose?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

about ten minutes outside of Appleton
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my friends is pretty hot on making a 924 or 944 into a mid-engine car. I'm thinking there may not be enough room behind the seats for a longitudinal setup, but a transverse layout might fit. The positioning may be tricky is you keep the torsion bars, but if you modify it to use coilovers in the rear and can chop out a portion of the carrier, I bet you could nestle something in there.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason sports cars are often mid engined is for balance and traction. They also have the passanger compartment further forwrd to compensate for the engine weight.

As 924s already have near perfect balance, you'd probably totally screw up the handling by making it mid engined. Just by installing a slightly lighter engine in the front of mine there is a noticeble change of balance and traction (just right for my driving style), but moving all that weight to the back would really kill it in my opinion.

Go for it with the styling, but forget about going mid engined.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haroldk wrote:
One of my friends is pretty hot on making a 924 or 944 into a mid-engine car. I'm thinking there may not be enough room behind the seats for a longitudinal setup, but a transverse layout might fit. The positioning may be tricky is you keep the torsion bars, but if you modify it to use coilovers in the rear and can chop out a portion of the carrier, I bet you could nestle something in there.


Well, with an Audi 5-speed, you could mount an appropriate Audi motor there. Not sure you'd have room for the front seats, it is an interesting concept that would likely need to a lot of work to make work as the fuel tank would need to be moved to the front and then the car would likely be sensitive to changes in fuel level, etc.
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