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What can be used from 924S to 924?

 
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tyfighter123  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:27 am    Post subject: What can be used from 924S to 924? Reply with quote

I have a 924S parts car and am wondering what all could be used or should be used from the newer 924S to put on my 924. So far I have done the 5lug conversion. Power windows and interior parts will be used as well. Can the radiator be used? The heater? Let me know. Thanks Guys
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the issue could be addressed in reverse - what CAN'T be used.

Off the top of my head, you can't use the engine and related ancillaries, clutch setup, radiator, heater (unless you're handy with fabbing things up), steering rack, transmission & torque tube. That's about it. Everything else will swap right over, but you're left with transferrring mostly body/interior stuff. What year 924?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slam, its a 77'. I am planning on switching most of the interior over as its newer and in better condition. Would switching the heater be worth it?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Late VHAC system works much better, might be a tough swap, though.

I think you should go for it and document the project for the Board!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta, Im going to measure things and see if its a possible fit, ill keep it documented for the board. Anyone done this before?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torque tube, transaxle, shift-linkage and axles will swap over with the appropriate clutch disc to mate the 924 NA engine to the 924S (944) splines. Luckily the 77 used an Audi 4-speed which is pretty similar to the Audi 5-speed.

The gearing may not be the greatest for the 2.0L, but a quick perusal of a 944 gear chart should tell you what you may end up with or what you may want to trade up to

Body parts can interchange, maybe see if the hatch on the S is in better shape than the 77? Some of the later cars received an electric trunk release, which might be nice to have along with a rear wiper (if so equipped)

Grab one of the bulb holders from the 924S taillight housings and wire in an extra brake light for the rear.

Depending on the year, I think the fuel tank might be larger on the 924S, so it might be a good upgrade for long road trips. There might be some fabrication needed for the different mounting points for the larger tank. I think Rasta did it on his 931. Not sure if the 77 will have the same ability to be upgraded as it might have been a running change in the chassis.

Good luck with the parts swap!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fiat22turbo, thanks for the info, so how hard, and what would need to be fabricated for the transaxle switch? Just a clutch kit for a 924S or do I need to make a bell housing?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta, do you think the tank would be a fairly easy switch?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tank swapping is a PITA. However, 924S uses the early style steel tank, which is very likely the same size as the one you have.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
Late VHAC system works much better, might be a tough swap, though.

I think you should go for it and document the project for the Board!


http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=21849&highlight=924s+heater+conversion
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyfighter123 wrote:
Fiat22turbo, thanks for the info, so how hard, and what would need to be fabricated for the transaxle switch? Just a clutch kit for a 924S or do I need to make a bell housing?


Nothing that extravagent, use the stock 924 NA bell and pressure plate with the 924S TT and a clutch disc with the proper splines. I've heard that some Chrysler discs have the proper splines. Should be a posting here about that someplace.

The rest is just putting the parts on the car.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably should have qualified the tranny/torque tube thing. Above is correct (although I haven't come across a part number for the right clutch disc) but the 924S torque tube and tranny use the larger drive shaft, which won't just bolt up to the 924 NA motor. That makes the swap a project rather than a weekend upgrade.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I just got done taking the MC and Vacuum Booster out of the 924S for the brakes. Two questions:
1. can I just bend the existing lines to reach the MC and leave them routed as they are? Or do I need to change the configuration?
2. Can I use my existing Vacuum Booster or do I need to use the 924SVacuum Booster. If I need to use the 924S booster do I need to adapt anything or will it mount right up?

I also took out the heater box and will be looking to adapt it to fit the 77, thanks for the link Paul.

And finally is the correct clutch disc the only thing I would need to make the 924S trany and torque tube work? Or do I need to modify anything else?
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