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'87 Head Gasket Curse?
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joecitizennn  



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goo. Is it normal or is it not? I have owned 9 cars with 944 type motors and have become aware that the condensation effects in the dipstick pipe and fill tube vary widely between individual cars, sometimes even under the same conditions. To tell whether or not there is coolant leaking into the crankcase, I would check the condition of the oil on the tip of the dipstick, not the crud that clings to the inside of the dipstick tube or filler pipe. I may have missed it, but I dont see any mention of your car loosing coolant. This is particurlarly important because if the coolant is contaminating the crankcase it will show up as a loss in the cooling system. If your coolant stays at the same level and you dont have to keep adding to it, then it is not ending up in the crankcase or exhaust.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No loss of coolant.. Looks to be staying clean as well. I want to believe it's just the car, because it still drives and runs great. But i'll stay on top of it because I want to keep it that way. Have put about 150 more miles on her today w/ no ill effect
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im just curious.. correct me if im wrong but couldnt white smoke also be generated from a Bad PCV valve on cars? i dont recal our cars having this but i have not really been able to look at mine for some time.

I know in the past i have had that problem before hand with a bad PCV and was causeing some smoking and upon replacing fixed my issue.

Just a thought

If it was more grey i would suggest looking into a fuel issue.. but yeah
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bcblase  



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air-oil separator (AOS) serves as the PCV on our cars, I believe.

I just replaced the AOS and seals on my car, and the oil leaks have almost ceased. I still have one minor leak on the back side of the valve cover - dripping right onto the exhaust manifold.

I still get some white smoke/steam when I first start the car after it has been sitting for a while.

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Haven  



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm back....

Well, it's unmistakeable now it seems. Head gasket failure.

I don't drive this car alot... but since the complete FOES I had done several months ago, I have put around 3k on her. Recently, I noticed that I was slowly losing coolant and couldn't figure out where from. So, pretty much, at that point I parked it.

The other day, I went out to fill the coolant reservoir back up and to run the car to see if I could try to figure it out, hopefully a cracked hose or something.

I didn't even have to open the coolant jug. I popped the hood, grabbed the dipstick to check the oil level and I had full blown "milkshake". Not only at the top of the stick, like I had mentioned earlier in this thread, but down where the oil reading is as well.

So, obviously I'm getting coolant in the CC.

Car still doesn't smoke or overheat. But that's a mute point now, because I won't be turning the key again until she's fixed. Good thing is I hardly drove her in this condition.. I always checked before I took her out and never saw a mixture until now.

So, she sits in my driveway waiting for a cure. Hopefully I can get this done soon enough to reuse most everything from my recent FOES.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be repeating a previous suggestion....

Coolant in the CC could be bad OPRV cooler seals. If you have coolant in the CC -----usually caused by bad OPRV seals, Porsche in the WSM (work shop manual) recommends you change your rod bearings.

This is more than a "maybe" issue. Coolant ruins rod bearings.

If the HG has never been changed, you might want to do it. Removing the headers makes the OPRV seal change easy. I have done it without removing the headers. Make sure you memorize the exact steps you took to get the oil cooler housing out of the "jungle".

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Haven  



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips John. I've got a vacation coming up, so hopefully I can take of it then.
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