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pimpi1976  



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:51 am    Post subject: 924 RELAY CONNECTIONS HELP Reply with quote

Hello colleagues, today I was sanding the connections of the relays and fuse box, everything was perfect when I was trying to clear an area of ​​difficult access, when it suddenly drops a relay and the car does nothing, the cables are: black, red / blue, red / black, brown. And it does not connect now put pictures of the wires and relay a greeting and thanks


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stevekat  



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no block or single connector to plug into? You just have four wires, each with a female spade connector attached?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, I have not only each wires connector indepent

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pimpi1976 wrote:
Hello, I have not only each cable with a




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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have four wires, each with a female spade connector attached?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks like a standard off the shelf relay. It does not appear to be set up as a fuel pump relay as it does not appear to have the pulse signal wire (though I have seen set ups that omit this.) I'd look at the wiring schematic for the two multi-colored wires and see what they reference.

Are the female spade connectors factory or installed later by someone.

Did the relay fall out completely, without wires attached, and you believe they were attached before? That seems strange. Four wires simultaneously becoming disconnected?

This may not be the source of your car not running.

BTW, what do you mean when you say the car does nothing? It doesn't crank, doesn't start, doesn't have any power at all to any systems, gauges, lights, etc?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stacks and Stacks of info on these when you do a google.

Google ...... relay 86 87 85 30 porsche 924

Where was the relay ? I gather it was in the Engine bay or under the dash and does it have a bosh number like any of the below

From the Ferrari Board:

* BOSCH 0 332 014 113, quantity 14
These are 12V, 30A relays. They have a single #30 input, which connect two two #87 outputs. There is no normally closed output (i.e., no 87a).

* BOSCH 0 332 204 101, quantity 6
These are 12V, 20/30A Standard SPDT relays. They have 85, 86, 30, 87, and 87a terminals.

* BOSCH 0 332 015 006, quantity 1
[This has a big "K" labelled through it, which I have seen elsewhere on this type of relay]. 85 and 86, 30, 87, and 87b terminals.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, the reference of the relay is: 0332014125 12V/30A I've been searching google and I put fuel injector relay combination, I have him removed dash relay I met online but out of the relay box, but joined the group of original wires
what car do not hear when the ignition is the fuel pump
relay fuel pump that I have been looking into new
haynes manual and can not find
thank you


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgive me for English
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924aussie  



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pimpi1976 wrote:
forgive me for English


this relay is used for a couple of things in the 924, fresh air blower, flashing blocker relay, power window relay, cooling fan, horn relay etc, still trying to find the right wire colour combinations, so

Starting from scratch ......

Is it a porsche 924 na or turbo ?

What year model is it ?

If it is a 1976 to 19771/2 model the haynes manual (page 246 ) is harder to understand where the relays are compared to the rest of the models



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green 924 .. 1980 rego 924PSH
1998 Mopar Neon ... sick
2003 Challenger / Montery 4WD
1995 Hyundai Scoupe ... sold
1998 Nissan Silvia ... sons back from OS he has taken it
BIG BLOODY MOTORHOME 300zx Sold
1980 Fire truck Sold


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does not appear to be stock wiring. Possibly could have been for an immobilizer if "car does nothing". Could equally be a rewired by the PO nightmare. Its very time consuming but easy to check your circuit for someone with auto electrical knowledge and a meter.

Or take the easy way, an educated guess:

thinner wires to coil, 85,86. Doesn`t mater which way.

Thicker wires to NO contacts, 30, 87 , dont matter either.

Simply bridging the larger wires will reveal if "car does anything".
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly OT but

RC,

And any other Aussies,


If you want a good text book (s) pick yourself up these approx $200 Australian Books used by unis and the TAFE. 1500 pages




Automotive Mechanics (2 Volume Set)
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1998 Mopar Neon ... sick
2003 Challenger / Montery 4WD
1995 Hyundai Scoupe ... sold
1998 Nissan Silvia ... sons back from OS he has taken it
BIG BLOODY MOTORHOME 300zx Sold
1980 Fire truck Sold
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pimpi1976  



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

924aussie wrote:
pimpi1976 wrote:
forgive me for English


this relay is used for a couple of things in the 924, fresh air blower, flashing blocker relay, power window relay, cooling fan, horn relay etc, still trying to find the right wire colour combinations, so

Starting from scratch ......

Is it a porsche 924 na or turbo ?

What year model is it ?

If it is a 1976 to 19771/2 model the haynes manual (page 246 ) is harder to understand where the relays are compared to the rest of the models

Alan




Is it a porsche 924 na
My model is 1983
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a porsche 924 na
My model is 1983


The Haynes manual I have only covers the 924 and turbo .... 1976 to 1982

Does anyone have a schematic for a 1983 and later ?


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1998 Mopar Neon ... sick
2003 Challenger / Montery 4WD
1995 Hyundai Scoupe ... sold
1998 Nissan Silvia ... sons back from OS he has taken it
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1980 Fire truck Sold
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think your '83 is the same as an '82, and that it wouldn't change materially until the 924S.
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