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ideola  



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:12 am    Post subject: Speaking of toofah valuation... Reply with quote

Worth it or not?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-924-GTR-Tribute-/161742287185?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

Looks like a nice engine, but I can't quite see it as worthy of the "GTR Tribute" label without the turbolader. I want to like it, but...

There's a lot of nice touches to the interior and such, but still not completely correct.

Interesting counterpoint to Ed's Holbert Wide Body.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it's worth it. This is not some $4000 basket case. This is a purpose built car and it is definitely worth the asking price.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be worth it in Australia, although i'd like to know how he gets 175hp out of his engine that seems to be a standard 125hp euro engine with some basic upgrades? My motor has 125rwhp with 11:1, hot cams big valves etc etc etc....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its like buying one of those Lamborghini or Ferrari replicas; just another turd wrapped in fiberglass.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen this car for sale a while back, totally worth it.
If you want big power on it, strap a 931 engine to it with an intercooler and increased boost and you're set...as it is known, in USA one can find 931 parts cars for chips money...if i were you i'd take that car, add more "GTR correctness" and a 931 engine.

EDIT: i knew this from the last ad he posted, but he is also including a BAE turbo kit for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it, just need to add a turbo, IC and crank the boost with the GTR correct boost controller.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



All that time, money and effort.......and THAT motor!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I bought that car I'd just drop a VW engine in it. LoL
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand these are old cars and aren't fast by todays standards but the fact that this car looks so fast and probably isn't just sucks. He nailed the look tho.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone else notice that there's a complete BAE turbo kit for it?

Based on some of the above posts, I'd guess not.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am thinking you couldn't build one with all the stuff he has for that price....thing is...you still need some HP to back up that wolfs clothing $$$$...oh, and it says it needs paint.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morghen wrote:

If you want big power on it, strap a 931 engine to it with an intercooler and increased boost and you're set...


Yeah that.. Solves the problem of what you're doing with "woody", theres your 931 engine, g31, and everything sitting right there iirc..

But you should blow the NA engine first with n2o for the sake of exhaustive research..

Something like a 50 shot on a WOT switch, and another 50 shot on top of that with a button on the steering wheel to start... If it takes that well change em to 75's or something, it might take 2 100's as we know from dutchpug the bottom end is good to 350..

That car is a prime candidate because it has enough rear tire already to handle it..

You know you want to, should be relatively inexpensive, somebodys gotta do it eventually, be a pioneer..
What else you gonna do with an NA engine?

Put the BAE on your Martini for retro..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did see the BAE, but it's not installed. Why didn't he at least install the BAE?! At least then it would be boosted.

I just can't wrap my head around calling it a Tribute car without a turbocharger in it; and TBH, the BAE feels kind of cheater...he went to all the effort to get "bonafide" (supposedly) GTR bits and pieces, running an NA motor or an aftermarket turbocharger somehow doesn't seem right. I mean, it's a cool car, no doubt, but to be a GTR tribute, I think he could have put more effort into replicating the GTR motor.

I'm with ya, Freddie, regarding a hotted up motor for the Martini, but I already have a Windblown setup for that. My plans are to pull the numbers-matching 77.5 motor and keep it for posterity. I have the original 78 motor that came out of the d-prod tribute car as a basis for a mild performance build. I've got all the bits to do US-spec 9:1 pistons, late NA head to replace the asthmatic 77-78 head, combined with the Windblown bolt-on kit. I've already swapped in a late (81) 5-speed trans (kept the 4-speed for posterity), and I've got all the stuff now to do 5-lug conversion, including some 6x16 Fuchs that I'm going to have color coded in the correct Martini white. So it'll be a restomod sort of approach, but everything will be non-destructive to the original. In case the Martini cars ever become collectible, I'll keep all the original bits so I can put it back to OEM spec.

Back on point, I dunno, at [edit]$15K[/edit], this car makes Ed's car seem like a bargain for what he was asking, particularly given its Holbert provenance.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The engine is the least of the worries here and building one is no big deal...all of the hard work is done and that's what makes this car totally worth it and if anybody doesn't believe that you may want to ask board member Rom78 how much time, not money but time, he has invested in his GTP recreation!

Even if you got this car at the BIN figure of $15K and put another $10K into it you would still be ahead of the game as to having a super track car that is certainly unique and that is the beauty of this car, not it's provenance but it's utility!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, I see I screwed up the asking price between my post yesterday and today...yeah, $15K actually is a reasonable number. Just don't call it a Tribute! LOLZ

Maybe whoever buys this will buy the motor for my languishing wide body project and have a closer approximation to the GTR!
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