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elitejaso

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2026 11:14 pm Post subject: New high pressure fuel pump but low system pressure |
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Hey Guys,
After a complete engine rebuild on my 81 S2 924 turbo and running the car it was idling rough and cutting out under acceleration.
Seemed lean so proceeded with fuel system pressure test and it was low at 4.5 Bar. Good range I believe is meant to be between 5.8-6.5 Bar.
Decided to replace the external fuel pump and in tank pump (as it was cooked) with a new 6.5 Bar external Bosch pump and strainer setup.
However with another test with the new setup still 4.5 Bar fuel system pressure. Ran a pressure test after the fuel filter and was getting 6.2 Bar, so up to the fuel distributor seems to be good.
Likely somethings up with the fuel distributor but not sure where to start, any ideas?
Would adjusting the pressure relief valve get me to 6 or so Bars from 4.5?
Thanks in advance _________________ 1981 924 turbo (daily driver) |
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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2814 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2026 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe its time for a rebuild of the system pressure regulator, it sits in the fuel distributor and have some orings than can dry out, ball, spring and shims. Its very easy to take out and rebuild.
Dont run lean, you might put a whole in a piston, so be careful to put boost into it until its all sorted  _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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elitejaso

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2026 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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cheers for the quick reply cecdric.
cool will get it rebuilt and see if that fixes it.
no boosting atm for me just really rough and crashing idle atm lol _________________ 1981 924 turbo (daily driver) |
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elitejaso

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2026 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Removed and inspected the system pressure regulator. Looks pretty good, o rings seem fine and no wear on the control piston. Had two shims installed.
Guess the spring could have weakened over time which might be the problem.
Is the spring included in rebuild kits?
Put it back in for the moment with a new copper washer which was .2mm thicker which has further dropped system pressure around .3 bar.
Can you adjust the screw plug out so the regulator sits further in hence increasing pressure?
Is there anything else that could be attributing towards my low s.pressure?
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Cedric

Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2814 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2026 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| elitejaso wrote: | Removed and inspected the system pressure regulator. Looks pretty good, o rings seem fine and no wear on the control piston. Had two shims installed.
Guess the spring could have weakened over time which might be the problem.
Is the spring included in rebuild kits?
Put it back in for the moment with a new copper washer which was .2mm thicker which has further dropped system pressure around .3 bar.
Can you adjust the screw plug out so the regulator sits further in hence increasing pressure?
Is there anything else that could be attributing towards my low s.pressure?
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If i were in your case I would change all the seals first anyway to be sure Im not chasing or modding anything that i shouldnt and to be sure its as it should, before going on fiddling with more stuff. BTW whats the state of the fuel filter? Maybe could be worth it to double check the voltage at the fuel pump aswell when running.
Normally to fine tune system pressure you can add or remove the shims that you see when you pull out the pressure regulator. Though in your case your quite long way from the fine tuning range. I could measure the spring on a spare fuel head i have here sitting on the shelf aswell for comparison
I guess you know https://k-jet.biz/, an australian company ive heard knows their stuff, maybe they can sort out some seals. Just a quick 1750km drive to get there from Melbourne Australia is friggin massive, That would be like me going from Stockholm to north of france, crossing a few countries on the way  _________________ 1980 924 Turbo
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9103 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2026 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Cedric wrote: | Just a quick 1750km drive to get there from Melbourne Australia is friggin massive, That would be like me going from Stockholm to north of france, crossing a few countries on the way  |
Ha ha ha ha!!! Still closer than for me to drive to the Circuit of the Americas track in Texas! That's a cool 2220 km from The Motor City... and still only halfway across the States... _________________ Vaughan Scott
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2026 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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If you csnt figure it out or just dont want to anymore, i sell an EFI conversion kit for these cars. The engine bay layout is kept and the parts are designed to look as close as possible to the originals. You even get a fuel distributor that looks very close to the original.
Check my website out: www.the924.com _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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elitejaso

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2026 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Looks like a neat kit Morghen, if I cant get it running will hit you up.
| Quote: | If i were in your case I would change all the seals first anyway to be sure Im not chasing or modding anything that i shouldnt and to be sure its as it should, before going on fiddling with more stuff. BTW whats the state of the fuel filter? Maybe could be worth it to double check the voltage at the fuel pump aswell when running.
Normally to fine tune system pressure you can add or remove the shims that you see when you pull out the pressure regulator. Though in your case your quite long way from the fine tuning range. I could measure the spring on a spare fuel head i have here sitting on the shelf aswell for comparison
I guess you know https://k-jet.biz/, an australian company ive heard knows their stuff, maybe they can sort out some seals. Just a quick 1750km drive to get there from Melbourne Australia is friggin massive, That would be like me going from Stockholm to north of france, crossing a few countries on the way |
New fuel filter from Porsche installed so should be all good. Also have tested the fuel pressure with the tester after the filter and it was showing a strong 6.2 Bar up to the fuel distributor so seems to be ok.
Gonna get a rebuild kit and replace the seals and what not as you've recommended and will take it from there. Cheers for the link to these local guys will check them out.
Yeah quite a drive done it once in a day do not recommend haha. Didnt have to cross multiple countries just two state lines. And if you want to drive to Cairns in Northern Queensland your basically double that.
| Quote: | | Ha ha ha ha!!! Still closer than for me to drive to the Circuit of the Americas track in Texas! That's a cool 2220 km from The Motor City... and still only halfway across the States... |
Might aswell just do the the cannon ball run  _________________ 1981 924 turbo (daily driver) |
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elitejaso

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2026 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Normally to fine tune system pressure you can add or remove the shims that you see when you pull out the pressure regulator. Though in your case your quite long way from the fine tuning range. I could measure the spring on a spare fuel head i have here sitting on the shelf aswell for comparison |
Hey Cedric if you are able to measure that spring whenever you have a spare moment would be greatly appreciated _________________ 1981 924 turbo (daily driver) |
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elitejaso

Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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New O-rings on the system pressure regulator but no increase in system pressure.
Also rebuilt fuel distributor and no change to system pressure either.
Adjusted fd plunger so in its starting position there was no fuel coming out of the ports.
If I put in an extra two 1mm shim can get it up to 5.2 bar and any addition after that barely does much.
Is anyone actually getting 6bar of pressure? saw a few videos and people were just above 5bar of pressure _________________ 1981 924 turbo (daily driver) |
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elitejaso

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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Removed cold start injector to check for leaks and no problems there.
Ran a cold control pressure test (by opening the valve on the tester from a system pressure test) and the pressure would only drop from 5.2 to 5 Bar then slowly keep dropping down.
If I run a cold control pressure test from scratch no pressure builds up at all until i switch the pump off and 1.5Bar shows up.
Might look at the accumulator next only thing I haven't checked out, can a faulty one cause system pressure loss? _________________ 1981 924 turbo (daily driver) |
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elitejaso

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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Cold control pressure should be between 2.4-2.8 Bar so thats not good. But incorrect system pressure could be affecting all my other pressures I guess.
Could also have a stuffed WUR? but that might just be another issue  _________________ 1981 924 turbo (daily driver) |
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9103 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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That's a bunch of strange results...
When I had a bad WUR, it did indeed fail with the symptom of control and system pressure were the same; essentially, it was not bleeding off any pressure to the control circuit. If yours is slowly dropping, maybe it's really clogged yet not completely done for?
No idea what the other result means - trying to build control pressure with the valve open. That's quite curious.
The accumulator is in line between the pump and the fuel filter (thence the distributor)... usually they fail by leaking, as you probably already know... perhaps if it's providing a blockage as well, it could cut down system pressure?
I seem to recall they're relatively available new and not so expensive? _________________ Vaughan Scott
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Beartooth
Joined: 05 Apr 2022 Posts: 320 Location: Roberts, MT
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2026 4:48 am Post subject: |
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I'd worry about system pressure before anything else. Yes, getting control pressure in line is important, but I think it's affected by system pressure being off. Make sure there are no restrictions in the fuel lines, and I'd cut open the old fuel filter to make sure you're not getting a bunch of crud plugging things up. I did have to clean a bunch of rusty sediment out of the sump on my car, but it was severely neglected.
The fuel pressure regulator is probably where I'd focus, but adjusting it can be a little wonky. I remember fuel pressure actually dropping if I put too many shims in it. Also, make sure that little plunger is able to move freely all the way to the end of the bore; maybe it's binding? It may be worth the expense of buying the new fuel pressure regulator. I do remember my fuel pressure being a little low until I monkeyed with it. I'm going off the range given by the Haynes manual, which is pretty wide - 5.4-6.0 bar. System pressure should be rock steady though: if you're seeing it drop off, that makes me think there's some restriction - like a bunch of sediment near the pickup that builds up on the tank filter when it's running, then falls away when it's off...
As I recall, I was only able to get to the low end of that range (maybe 5.5) and no more. Since my engine is clapped out and needing to be rebuilt, I just called it good, and it's run fine for around 9000 miles... As mentioned, it's very important to get it sorted, especially before you drive it hard. Once you get there, however, it should serve you well as long as you run good gas and don't neglect it. Obviously I can't pinpoint where your problem is, but hopefully there's something you can take from my experience. _________________ 1980 931 diamond in the rough |
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