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timstar92404 · Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC

ok i tried fixing my headlights today cus they don't fit so i loosened the adjustment points and tried adjusting it and the headlight assembly seems sqrewed up and i ended up having ot hammer this part to get it to go in the right spot ( where ther is a spring ). it move even rougher now and still the headlights don't fit . i kinof got frustrated and i just want to rip it all of and put in a new headlight assembly

Anyone know where i can get an entire working headlight assembly is it easy to find. Also how do you reach under the fender to loosent that adjustment point.

this is pissing me off i really want to get the headlights working right.
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gohim · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA

Porsche does not sell complete headlight assemblies. If they did, the price would be more than your car is worth.

But. You should be able to get a complete headlight assembly from one of the guys who is parting out a car. Check in the For Sale Section. You can also check on eBay. I sold both the complete front of car headlight assembly from my 83 944 parts car, including the cross bar, and both complete headlight assemblies for $25 on eBay. That seems to be about the going price. It's the shipping that will kill you.

timstar92404 · Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC

yeah i don 't think i would order from ebay, the entire headlight assembly is a pretty big unit would cost too much for shipping.

i've never seen a 924 with a messed up headlight assembly like mine. My car is in good condition all aroundthe body has no dents. The headlight assembly is the only messed up thing on the body.

i thought maybe checking for parts cars in the buy and sell but i don't know how to remove the entire heaelight assembly . how do you reach under the fender to unbolt those points. Also i rarely see 924 parts cars listed in the buy and sell.

will a 924 headlight assembl be the same thing or no also does year matter?
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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

Tim I have a couple of headlight assemblies I could sell you.

As for removal, you will have to take the fender off. Unbolt the top 10mm bolts, the one by the nose panel, three inside the wheel well (under body sealant so you will have to dig them out), and one at the base of the fender near the rocker area. Once you have done this the headlight assembly itself is pretty self explanitory.

Year does not matter with this part so let me know if you want one.

I'll sell the entire assembly for $40US plus shipping which would be another $20 for ground service.
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timstar92404 · Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: richmond BC

is it the entire assembly? and does it work properly. if so i will pm you in a few weeks if you still got it. i don't want to buy it right now cus i have to do bunch of other things first to get my car running.
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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

Umm yeah it is the entire assembly and it functions properly.

I'll put a passenger side one off to the side for you.

That is the side you need correct?
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tj924 · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:38 pm Post subject:

Played with my headlight a fair bit lately (both sides) & have removed & replaced one entirely as the bolt holes on the triangular mounting piece on the fender side was stripped. The PO had compensated by using bigger bolts, but they came through too far & interfered with the headlight's operation. Swapped the 2 mounts around & used nuts & bolts on the stripped side, which is now on the inside under the nose panel so length isn't as big an issue.

Anyway, I haven't needed to remove the fender to do this. Just reach under the fender & you'll feel the three bolts. Use a spanner or wrench & remove them entirely (a metal triangular piece will come out with them, don't lose it) if you need to pull the entire assembly or just loosen them a little if you just need to adjust that headlight assembly on that side. Once the headlight is adjusted just tighten the bolts again.

If you remove the bolts they are a PITA to get back in, but it just takes a little patience (if I was able to do it, anyone can).
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CMXXXI · Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 1939 Location: Vicksburg, MS

Tim, personally, I don't think a new assembly is going to fix anything. If the headlight cover doesn't fit into the opening formed by the fender/nose panel/hood, then its the sheet metal that is out of alignment, not the headlight assembly. You can not adjust the 'absolute' left and right placement of the assembly (and cover), so if you have a decent straight gap on the inboard side of the lid and it contacts the outboard side, the fender is out of alignment.

That aside ... I concur with tj924 - the fender does not have to come off. I removed both headlight assemblies before having my car painted. I took them out, sandblasted all the rust off, painted with zinc primer and some rattle-can grey and reinstalled. While you have them out, it's a good idea to replace all the 'blind nuts' as they have a tendency to rust pretty easily. Cheap to replace, you just have to take the time to do it.

To remove the light assembly, you just have to disconnect the operating linkage (small circlip) then unbolt the two, 3-bolt triangular 'hinge pins'. Don't bother trying to take off the rear section of the plastic 'bucket' before pulling the assembly, it is more trouble than it's worth, and not necessary.

The bolts/triangular plates under the nose panel are easily accessable, but those under the fenders take some patience. I was able to unbolt them using a 1/4" ratchet without a problem. The only issue is that you have to do everything "by feel". On reassembly be sure to use some anti-seize compound, as the bolts under the fender get wet and covered in road grime.
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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

I agree that removing the fender is not necessary. Since I primarily do more than just the bare minimum when I get into something I guess it is just habit for me to suggest opening up cans of worms.

Not to mention that I am a pretty big guy and I like to work in open spaces rather than shoving my arm up inside things and trying to wiggle my fingers in tight spaces.

I also agree that your problem is not in the headlight assembly. I am pretty sure that your car was repaired at some point and the area that contains the triangular bracket on the outside has been misaligned during the repair and this is leading to your poor fitment.
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Joes924Racer · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:55 am Post subject:

Whats all this talk of cans of worms shoot do you stock pile them or have a bunch layen around.. I want to know why the cover wont fit & what are you trying to do.
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