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JtWo
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 Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: Help a noob here :) |
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Hey everyone. I'm an owner of a 77 924 which is currently collecting dust. I'm making it into a project for me to work on  So here's the question, the first thing I want to do is loose all the wieght I can without taking anything out from the interior, My plans are buying carrera gt fg and cf parts from gt racing, What panels have the most wieght and can I take panels made for the 944 and swap them onto the 924. I need that info so I know which panels to purchase first. Once that is finish, I'm gonna need suspension work. I will soon start looking for strut bars and coil overs. Are there any out on the market for our cars? I've seen a coil over kit for the 944, but I don't know if they will fit. This will not be my last post, Thanks guys . Here are pics of the porsche collecting dust at my parents shop. It recently had a paint job. It is only about 5 months old. Enjoy
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My924gtc
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome aboard!
Check the thread below for a nice alternative to GT Racing's FG and CF parts. A few of us here are working on alternative solutions to the cravings many of us have for modifying the body of the 924.
Some of us are working on powerplant improvement as well and can be of great assistance in bringing your 924 up to snuff.
Feel free to email, PM, or IM me if you want to explore the possibilities that Fossil Fuel Vintage Performance has to offer.
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=13562&sid=091e4fbdba49b2370611a012ea27102c
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JtWo
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Thanks! I also have another question; are 924's RWD? If so, why are the rear brakes drum brakes and the front are disk?
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My924gtc
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The drums were just standard practice for the early cars. A 5 lug 4 disc option became available in '79 and was standard equipment after '83 when the 944 came to be. You can convert to 944 bits to fix that issue, and it is rather simple.
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RobG
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that's a lot of dust!  the paint job is wild, seems like a worthwhile project .... Welcome!
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ideola
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I prob'ly won't be able to offer much help compared to some (most) of the members here, but welcome anyway! That's a cool fin on the back.
What part of the world do you hail from?
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My924gtc
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That spoiler is made by Zender if I am not mistaken. One sold on ebay a month or so ago for >$100.
I like the message writen in the dust on the window, must have been a real good one considering you wiped most of it out. Classy.
Are you going to keep the flames if you do a body conversion? I hope so.
BTW you won't have to look far for all your upgrades, most of us here have done that for you and all you need do is ask.
We need to update the link section of the Garage to reflect something closer to real time parts suppliers and technical info.
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'82 924 2.3L SC/EFI <---online fall '06
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ideola
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Vaughan, I've collected a bunch of links and bookmarks...I'll volunteer some effort into doing what Mark suggested if you'd like. It's about time I contribute something meaningful to this forum.
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CBass
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Help a noob here :) |
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| JtWo wrote: | Hey everyone. I'm an owner of a 77 924 which is currently collecting dust. I'm making it into a project for me to work on So here's the question, the first thing I want to do is loose all the wieght I can without taking anything out from the interior, My plans are buying carrera gt fg and cf parts from gt racing, What panels have the most wieght and can I take panels made for the 944 and swap them onto the 924. I need that info so I know which panels to purchase first. Once that is finish, I'm gonna need suspension work. I will soon start looking for strut bars and coil overs. Are there any out on the market for our cars? I've seen a coil over kit for the 944, but I don't know if they will fit. This will not be my last post, Thanks guys . Here are pics of the porsche collecting dust at my parents shop. It recently had a paint job. It is only about 5 months old. Enjoy
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GT Racing lists weight savings for the 944/CGT body bits. The rear
CGT fender flares won't really save you any weight, although you remove a good bit of steel from the rear quarter panels, the rear flares are bonded on to the metal panel. You can fit 944 rear quarter panels which have just as much flare as 924 panels, although changing the rear panels is not a job for a novice. The front fiberglass fenders will be around 4lbs each. I'm not sure exactly how much a 924 fender weighs, probably 20-30 pounds I'm thinking, so let's say 50lbs overall for the fenders, probably the same for the rear.
If you do the front fenders, you also have to use the CGT air dam. That'll save about 30-40lbs, between the valence, bumper and bumper shocks. Of course, at this point your car will fail a saftey inspection, so you might want to have a small tube steel bumper frame made up, and mount some bumper shocks from a junkyard Honda or Mazda, they're usually a little smaller and lighter than the old Porsche shocks. Another option might be the 951/944S2 bumper assembly, although I'm not sure if it'll fit without modification.
The hood might save 30lbs, but then you'll need hood pins. I wouldn't recommend changing out the glass, considering it's a street car and there are safety implications. Changing the seats for aftermarkets like Corbeau, Sparco etc will also save weigh, stockers are about 30lbs each, aftermarkets are usually 15lbs each or so for fixed buckets.
Check out www.paragonproducts.com for suspension upgrades, anything from a 1986 and earlier 944 will fit our cars. I would highly recommend upgrading to 944 brakes, they're a bolt on upgrade and are a big improvement. This upgrade also changes the lug pattern from the 4x108mm fitment, which is hard to find wheels for, to 5x130mm which is the standard Porsche lug pattern.
A great thing about the 924 is that since the 944 and 968 were developed into heavier cars, many stock suspension parts from those later cars work out to be a pretty good upgrade for an older 2400lb 924. Late swaybars and springs/torsion bars make for a pretty stiff and responsive 924.
Hope that helps you out a bit
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JtWo
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ideola: I'm from Northern California and I always thought that that was the stock wing....lol
My924gtc: I don't know, since I will be changing all the panels that the flames are on, I'm thinking about just repainting the whole thing. Maybe silver with Blue flames
CBass: Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the help guys! Can someone please answer my other question? are 924's RWD? If so, why are the rear brakes drum brakes and the front are disk?
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JtWo
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Btw...by no means am I a noob to body work. I literally grew up at a body shop and I've been doing body work since I was 7. Also, I was thinking about getting Le Man's quarter panels. then getting wider wheels. Now the problem... Wide body + wide wheels + slow car = bad performance.
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My924gtc
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| JtWo wrote: | | Can someone please answer my other question? are 924's RWD? If so, why are the rear brakes drum brakes and the front are disk? |
Yes they are RWD.
TTBOMK all cars made in 1977 were RWD and nearly all cars had drums in the rear. 4 wheel disk brakes are an evolution just as FWD is.
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'82 924 2.3L SC/EFI <---online fall '06
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