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ideola  



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:35 am    Post subject: Cosmetic trim questions Reply with quote

Question 1 : replacing hood liner
Just ordered a replacement hood liner from 928 Motorsports (http://www.928motorsports.com/parts/hoodliner.php)...best price I've seen at $73...not OEM, but the silver will go nice with my blue & silver color scheme Anyway, what's the best way to get all that old crumbly crap and glue off the hood?

Question 2 : refurb window trim
Stupid PO painted all of the windshield, door window, and quarter window trim with glossy black paint. I need to somehow strip the rubber and repaint the metal parts, especially now that I just finished sanding and repainting the rear hatch trim with a very nice flat black. Can anyone tell me the best way to remove the various trim pieces so I can refurb the rubber and sand & repaint the metal trim pieces?

Side note: 928 Motorsports also has the correct transaxle drain socket for our cars, which I also ordered...this is the only place I've seen the 17MM socket (http://www.928motorsports.com/parts/transaxlesocket.php)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tweeks has all the exterior trim, most of it is pretty reasonably priced, I would opt for replacement as rubber that old will never turn to "like new" with refurbishment.

http://www.tweeks.com/shop?frame=6.77.2648
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some reason, I can never get to tweeks.com
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it is http://www.tweeks.com/shop
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The replacement parts I'll need for my door & quarter window trim would cost $232+. Ouch! I think I'll go with some goof-off stripper and try that first. Even if it doesn't look like new, it can't look worse than it already does.

BTW, I did figure out how to get the windshield trim off:
1. Each of the three pieces is held on by four clips
2. Inserting a flat head screwdriver between the perpindicular surface of the trim piece and the edge of the clip
3. *Carefully* twist the screwdriver a little bit successively on each clip to gradually loosen the trim piece

Eventually, you should be able to work all of the pieces free, but you have to be very careful not twist or pull too hard in order to avoid bending / damaging the trim
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear about the windshield trim.

As for the hood liner residue. Try using some adhesive remover or grease and wax remover if you can get some. I've tried using a wire wheel but that gets gummed up.

Worse comes to worse... it is you, your elbow, and a good ole fashion razor knife. You know the old style flat one that holds a single razor blade. They also have long handles scrapers, basically a screwdriver handle with a blade at the end.

Both scraping ideas are last resort PITA techniques. Chemicals would be easier.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the hood insulation; what about using a heat gun to soften the glue, then a plastic spackle(sp?) knife to scrape it off?? youd have to be carefull not to use to much heat i think(so you dont burn the paint on the opther side), but it might work.. ill be doing this soon myself, so please post what worked the best...

ive been collecting new trim little by little over the past few months, everything will be replaced with new after painting (still far off, but i should have all the pieces by then ) i still have to find rain gutter seals, one outer door squeegee (left side) , door handle and mirror gaskets, and some small bits, so if anyones got these pieces new in the bag that they wont use, shoot me an email..

ill be following this thread with interest , as ive never had to remove some of these pieces, it s already been helpful..
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a good thread:

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=4625&highlight=acetone
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So after reading the thread that Paul posted, I first tried the vacuum trick. Personally, I found that approach to be somewhat effective, but was looking for faster results.

Next, I placed a large tarp over the entire engine compartment, and then used a large metal putty knife (with about an 8" wide blade). This was very effective at getting most of the old crumbly stuff down in very large chunks, leaving only a thin layer of glue and material.

Next, I used a heavy duty chisel as a scraper to peel off strips of the remaining glue. Using this approach, I was able to get almost all of the material off, except for a sticky residue that remains. The glue is apparently applied in a particular "direction". On my car, the passenger side was applied from horizontally, and the driver side was applied from vertically. I found that the chisel worked best when working "with the grain" of the glue. Using the chisel required some serious grunting, alot of repetitive scraping, and sore back and arms, but it seemed to be the most effective way to get most of the glue removed.

Today, I am going to get some 3M adhesive remover in an attempt to remove what stickiness remains before applying the new hood liner (which won't arrive until next week). I'll post back my results later.

Also, after looking at prices for replacement trim for the door windows and quarter windows, I'm going to try some "Goof-off" or "Oops!" to recondition the rubber and strip the paint off the metal. Then I'll repaint just the metal with flat black. Yesterday, I used a scotch-brite wheel to strip down the windshield trim, both door handles, and the wipers. They are now repainted in flat black.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hood trim removal is a messy job. I first covered the entire front end with plastic. Scrape off as much as you can.
Then with a couple of cans of WD40 spray a section and with a paint scraper clean and scrape a section. It takes time but you will not remove paint in this manner. The glue will adhere to anything using other methods.
You have the WD40 and a scraper so try it first. It will take a couple of applications to remove it to paint.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:

Regarding removing the old hoodliner glue, as Vince suggested, the final step of spraying WD40 and scraping vigorously with a wide-blade metal scraper did an excellent job (with a tarp over the engine compartment). Hopefully, the new hood liner will arrive this week!

Regarding reconditioning the window trim, I used a product called "Goof-off!" to remove all of the paint the PO had sprayed on the door window and quarter window trim. This stuff is *potent*, so use the right kind of gloves, tape off the body to protect the paint, and make sure you have some ventilation!

Anyway, this stuff did an absolutely amazing job at stripping the paint from the crome metal pieces, as well as stripping and reconditioning the rubber. I applied it first with a shop rag and rubbed and rubbed until the paint started to "melt" away. In some particularly tough spots, I used a scotch-brite pad for extra persuasion.

After the old paint was completely removed from both the metal and rubber trim, I masked off everything but the metal trim, and put a fresh coat of flat black paint on it. Wow! What a difference! The exterior rubber trim around all of my windows now looks almost as good as new. I will probably end up replacing the outer squeegee on both doors because the paint ruined the felt, but those two pieces are inexpensive compared to the rest of the trim pieces.
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