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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

Anyone else find the 'minor' flaws in this listing?

Better question would be...Is there anything other than the red highlights that would indicate that this anything other than a US spec car?

Answer...NO

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4534655327&category=6431
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Chrenan · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada

I think he is kidding around. He is joking, right? Please tell me he is joking?
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924guy · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:27 am Post subject:

awe common guys, for a mere 10 large he'll even deliver it for you!!

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Smoothie · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:09 am Post subject:

The 5th digit of the vin (a "2") indicates it's a USA car (a "1" there would indicate Europe/ROW).
An engine code starting with "XK" followed by a 6 digit number ("XKnnnnnn") would indicate a Europe/ROW left-hand drive cars' engine. The seller (or owner (2 different people in 2 different countries)) gives XXK-D15 108 - not a normal engine code, so who knows? Normal Europe/ROW cars were 125hp, not 135.
Well, they've demonstrated an ineptness with numbers as this statement displays - "THIS CAR HAS 50% MORE HORSE POWER THAN ANY USA & CANADIAN 924". -So you can question the accuracy of anything else they state that includes a number (50% more than 115hp would actually be 172.5 hp. -And 135hp would be 17.4% more than 115hp.) But hey, maybe I'm nitpicking, maybe the "50% more HP" was just a kooky statement being throw in for entertainment purposes like - "The only Problem is trying not to go over 100mph. LoL" LoL LoL LoL LoL .

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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

Here's a copy of the email I sent to him when I first saw the ad...

"Hello. I saw your listing for the Silver '77 924 and wanted to contact you about some of the misrepresentations you have included in the listing.

1. Euro spec 924's were rated at 125hp not 135.

2. Several were imported into the US, including the '78 that I have.

3. That VIN, when run through the official Porsche decoder, comes back as a USA, California model not Europe, Rest of World.

4. The bumpers on that car are US spec bumpers not the ones used on all European models.

5. That engine code is not an actual designation and does not indicate that you indeed have a Euro spec engine.

I suggest you clear up these inaccuracies before trying to sell that car to someone. It is obviously not what you are advertising and I will enlighten the winning bidder to these facts and point them in the direction of the official PCA Register where they can learn all about how very US spec that car is.

Now, I think what you have appears to be a decent early example of a 924. You need to show more pics. In particular pics of the engine bay, interior, battery tray, front lower rear wheel wells, and the driver's side door sill.

I am not trying to jerk you around, I am just trying to save you the hassle of being involved in a potentially ugly situation when the truth is revealed. Not to mention that anyone who knows these cars will never bid on it because of the obvious issues with authenticity.

Cheers from your friendly Ebay Porsche 924 specialist,

Fossil Fuel - Vintage Performance

Mark
stuttgartmark@aol.com"
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Helstrm · Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 198 Location: Columbia, SC

10K?!?!?!?!?!? Is he smoking crack?????? But then again it is a Porsche

My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

Was that too harsh or not harsh enough?

I forgot to mention that if that car does not burn ANY oil than something is wrong with it since they left the factory with a consumption factor (that has slipped my mind at the moment).

This is my favorite line"THE ONLY PLACE THEY PUT THAT MEGA HORSE POWER ENGINE IN THE 924 WAS EUROPE. "

So 20 more horsepower makes an engine MEGA. Not to mention he says the same thing about the power increase no less than 3 times.

This one's great too..."ANY THAT MADE IT HERE WERE BROUGHT OVER BY PEOPLE THAT MOVED TO THE USA & CANADA ON A SHIP."

And this..."What makes this 924 Unique is the Fact it was actually brought here by a Person who moved to the Country from Germany."

I'm still grinning about this one and I read it at 8am this morning.

When I am done rebuilding my Euro spec motor I am going to sell my car on ebay and claim that my old German grandpappy towed the car over from Europe on a raft with a piece of rope tied around his neck while swimming across the Atlantic.

That should get me $20K considering it will be a MEGA horsepower ROW car.

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'82 924 2.3L SC/EFI <---online fall '06

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Sponsor of the "2006 Battle in the Badlands"

Llamaguy · Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 711 Location: Indiana

I should drive up and show him what mega horsepower is, because by his standard, i must have ... superduper horsepower!

although it does look nice, I'd have to see the inside and then maybe I would have bought it 6 months ago.

note* why is he selling a car in Nothern Ontario when he's in Indiana?
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emoore924 · Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2822

The only individual on the face of the earth that has less of a clue than this lister is the uninformed buyer who bids on this thing based on that description.

I wish them both the best of luck with the lawsuit.

J1NX3D · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1333 Location: New Zealand

you should have told him how many US spec models were sold in the US, lol!
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PORSCHEV · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:04 am Post subject:

Still worth a 500.oo bid.....funny it didn't meet the reserve tho

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J1NX3D · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1333 Location: New Zealand

his ad's changed since i last saw it a few hours ago. its still flawed though.

924guy · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:03 pm Post subject:

this guys just asking for trouble with the way that ad reads...too much speculation, not enough fact going on..first he knows the history, then its "most likely a GI.." man, its not a bad looking example either, he doesnt need to go so far trying to push it..hes just looses credibility in the eyes of anyone who knows these cars..
in any event, id be surprized if it breaks $1200..but i really hope the buyer (if there will be one) does their homework before hittiong the bid button..
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78 924
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99' VehiCross
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ideola · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI

Mark, for what it's worth, I think your comments were right on the money...not too harsh, not too soft-peddled, just about right...
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plyhammer · Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: ebay

At the bottom of the ad he states that he will refund any amount that the bidder goes over his reserve? So, If I bid 1 billion gagillion dollars (best dr evil voice) I will get I billion gagillion - reserve back. That would be a neat looking check.