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[timstar92404]

I finally got my smog test pass but there is a downside. I had to pay the mechanic another 265 bucks (after the 120 for ingition timin/mixture last time)

the first time he set my timing the car would barely drive it had no power at all. then he fixed it up and it drove fine but it still failed aircare.

this time he said the car needs , intake manifold gasket/ injector seals to pass so I pay up and he does it and also goe to the smog test centre to get a pass and gives me my car.

right before I got my car I saw him tinkering with it (after being back from aircare and having replaced everything already..... why would he be tinkering with it if everythign is done) then he went for a test drive and came back.


My smog test shows everything is way below average reading...... weird and my car has the cat taken out too.....

so I think he screwed up my timing again but he said everything is fine.


the car is noticably much slower in accelleration it takes a long time to get to 60 mph in 3rd gear before I could easily pass 60 mph in 3rd, now it feels like it has no power.


also after I shut the car off the hot start problem is way worse. It usually started up after a few tries but now it took me like 5 mins cranking a million time to get it to start again.


so did the mechanic most likely screw up my timing again?

I don't even want to go back to him to tell him to fix it as he will probably deny touching the timing.

so I guess I'll have to go to another mechanic later when I have the money to get them to fix the timing.
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78 924 sold.
85.5 944

[Khal]

It's hard to discern anything about what is wrong with the car from a broad description like "the car feels like it has no power."

You'll only get replies like "check this bit isn't on backwards" and "make sure the this bit's not here when it should be there."

And you can't check anything anyway 'cause you don't have the tools and you don't know what you're looking at.

It's pretty easy -speaking for a mechanic -to set the timing. It's not something a mechanic would stuff up, generally speaking, unless they were completely incompetent.

In answer to your question, I think it's unlikely that the mechanic has stuffed up the timing "again" (I don't think he stuffed it up "before", either).

Anyway, you were furious with his poor work last time. You were told repeatedly to get him to fix the problem and not pay more money. But you still took the car back there and paid more money to get the car back in worse running condition than it was?

Mate, I'm beginning to think you're an idiot...
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'80 924 Turbo

[timstar92404]

No I didn't want to go back but I have 5 days left to pass a smog test or else I would have to buy daily insurance to go to the mechanic.

and I had already paid 120 bucks and the max you have to pay is 300 dollars to get a "conditional" pass so I just wanted to go back to this mechanic to get the rest of the work done and I thought I would either fully pass or get a conditional pass and then find a better mechanic.


I'm not going back to this guy ever again.

and he did mess it up for sure last time, the car barely ran and he admitted that he screwed up cus it was obvious.

this time after coming back from the smog test which passed he had to work on the car again quickly before giving it back to me so I'm pretty sure he was setting the timing back.



now the hot start problem is much worse I had to crank for 10 mins while waiting. when it starts and I shut it off it starts up again easily.

I thought maybe the cold start injector isn't working. the wire looks damaged right where it goes into the connector so I'm not sure how to fix it.


but when driving the car is noticable much slower.



someone here gave me the name of a mechanic close to my house so I'll go get him to check it out.
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78 924 sold.
85.5 944

[maireeka]

/agree

why the hell did you take it back to that guy? are you retarded?

what you needed to do is take it to somewhere else for some diagnostics or something before you start replacing blinker fluid and the flux capacitor fuses.
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1977 Porsche 924 red and READY!

[timstar92404]

read what I wrote above, its cus I'm reaching a deadline to pass the smog test and at least it passed now and I can get insurance.

he did fix my timing for free after going back and the car ran good again but it still failed smog test and he said he guaranteed it would pass with this work so I said fine but I think he just cheated the test by adjusting the timing to pass and then didn't put it back correctly.

thats what I think.

I'm not going back to him now that I passed the smog test.
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78 924 sold.
85.5 944

[timstar92404]

and its not that this mechanic doesn't know what he is doing , there are tons of cars there and he gives you your car back the same day and I think they do things in a hurry and aren't careful.
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78 924 sold.
85.5 944

[Raceboy]

.....equals the mechanic doesn't know what he's doing.
If you seem to know everything so well why you keep asking stuff?
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'83 924 2.6 16v Turbo, 470hp
'67 911 2.4S hotrod
'90 944 S2 Cabriolet
'78 924 Carrera GT replica
'84 928 S, sold
'91 944 S2, sold
'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
'84 924, turbocharged, sold.
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[timstar92404]

actually I have no clue what I'm doing for most things but I try by reading haynes and this site.


I tighened up the throtle cable and it accelerates better now.

and I increased the idle to 1100 rpm the acceleration seems better than when it was at 900 rpm.


the car doesn't backfire or anything like before so maybe the timing is fine like the mechanic said.

I'm probably just paranoid as he screwed up the first time so I don't trust his work anymore.


what I did notice is the wires going to the cold start injector are damaged (insulation is ripped) right where it goes into the connector so I'm not sure how to fix it.

anyone know? where would i get a new connector.


does this seem the likely cause of the starting problem now?

when i shut the engine off for about 5 mins or longer it won't start I will have to crank forever and apply the gas pedal to get it to finally start then it idles fine.


I have already found out my auxilliary air valve does not function but it was still starting fine.
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78 924 sold.
85.5 944

[Neil924]

I can't help with your problems but don't crank your car for long periods. You'll burn things out. Crank for 15 seconds, then let the starter rest for 15 seconds. If you don't let it rest OR crank for more than 15 seconds, you'll just put too much strain on it.

[Paul]

When it won't start, don't crank it at all.

From the off position, turn the key to the on position and listen for the pump to run and shutoff. Then turn the key off and repeat 5 to 10 times, then crank it.

BTW NEVER touch the gas while starting any car with CIS injection. The resulting backfire can damage your air plate.

[augidog]

I say he takes Joe's record away of most posts within a year.
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1978 924 95 mile daily driver.
Audi TB/POR174M/High Flow Cat/2.25" exhaust
I knew that positive thinking thing wouldn't work.

[maireeka]

ruined me and i thought i was a bit of a post whore.
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1977 Porsche 924 red and READY!

[Neil924]

[WhoDak]

Neil, mine only comes on every few times I hit it, or if it's sat say overnight. My guess is that if it's been sitting for more than a few hours the fuel accumulator has been emptied in this time and the pressure needs to be bumped up to start. If you just had the car running the fuel accumulator will keep pressure in the system for a couple hours.
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Mike
'82 924 N/A
'91 Toyota Pickup SR5 4x4 Xtra cab

[Neil924]

Thanks Mike, I find it some what odd that I have never heard it though... in 3 years. I'll chalk that up under "good things".