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tj924
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 Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:51 pm Post subject: Alternator Bushings |
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Got my replacement alternator bushings the other day & went to put them on today & they appear to be the wrong part. (definitely don't fit & look nothing like the old ones.
Checking PET just now, it has more than one entry for:
1. the rear support - 2 different part numbers, one has "/LL" & the other has "/RL" in the remarks
2. the long bolt - 2 different part numbers, one is 95mm long & is a hex-head bolt & says "/LL". The other is 105mm & is a "cheese-hd" screw & says "RL"
3. The bushing - 3 different part numbers, one says "bush" & the remark is "/LL", the other 2 say "rubber mounting" & the remark is "\RL" for both (need 2 of 1 part & 1 of the other)
4. The sleeve - 2 different part numbers, one has "/LL" & the other has "/RL" in the remarks
5. The front support - 2 different part numbers, one has "/LL" & the other has "/RL" in the remarks
So, in the PET, does the "/LL" mean Left-hand drive & the "/RL" mean right-hand drive? My bolt is not a hex-hd it is actually an allan-hd bolt, would that be a "cheese hd screw"? If so then that would support my theory that the left- and right-hand drive cars have different part numbers (bummer).
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leadfoot
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Shouldn't make any difference for left or right hand drive as all n/a have alternator mounted in the same spot.
Might be a code for 931 's though or year designations. The only thing I can think of is the ealier models with the vibration damper not having enough clearance from the alternator. There seems to be a few reports of alignment issues of the front pulleys not ligning up with brackets from later years.
Mine has the countersunk hex head, I call cheese head the twelve point star, this has the two rubber bushes and the curved washers.
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Smoothie
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:44 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Bushings |
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| tj924 wrote: | | So, in the PET, does the "/LL" mean Left-hand drive & the "/RL" mean right-hand drive? My bolt is not a hex-hd it is actually an allan-hd bolt, would that be a "cheese hd screw"? If so then that would support my theory that the left- and right-hand drive cars have different part numbers (bummer). |
Yes, "/LL" parts are for cars that have the driver at the left side and "/RL" = driver at right. And they do use "cheese hd" to mean allen head.
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Gram
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:09 am Post subject: |
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tj, similiar to what I found yesterday when I pulled my alternator off. In fact the upper bushes are different from each other too; the rear one is 2-piece and a soft clear urethane stuff, and the front upper is one piece rubber with the steel sleeve for the bolt and hex-head bonded inside. I'll call the parts guys tomorrow and see what's up, because they quoted me the same part number for both. My lower support bush has the bolt bonded into a rubber covered steel inner..Is yours like that?
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tj924
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Smoothie wrote: | | ..."/LL" parts are for cars that have the driver at the left side and "/RL" = driver at right. And they do use "cheese hd" to mean allen head. |
Thanks Smoothie. Confirms what I was thinking, particularly with the "cheese head" vs "hex head" bolt.
| Gram wrote: | | ...the rear one is 2-piece and a soft clear urethane stuff, and the front upper is one piece rubber with the steel sleeve for the bolt...Is yours like that? |
Yep, thats exactly like mine. According to PET the "rubber mounting" part numbers with remark "RL" are:
047 131 117 A x 2 - these would go on the rear mount
047 903 149 A x 1 - this would be for the front mount
This last one is not to be confused with the lower rubber mounting, which is 047 903 149 (no "A" suffix)
The metal sleeves (1 front & 1 rear) are a seperate part number so should slide out of the old one & into the new one.
Very surprised noone else has spotted this before now.
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Ozzie
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:06 am Post subject: |
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My alternator rear bushes are shot too.
Oil had leaked down from the filler cap, now replaced, but too late.
I have seen urethane bushes at suspension shops very similar to the rear bushes.
I am going to try there.
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Gram
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Interesting. The parts guys here are quoting me 059 903 263A for each of the upper 2 bushes, and 1 off 059 903 127A for the lower bush. I'll sort it out tomorrow. Thanks for the part numbers..
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tj924
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| Gram wrote: | | ...059 903 263A for each of the upper 2 bushes... |
PET has that x 2 as the upper bush for the LHD cars. Interestingly it calls the same parts for the RHD cars a "rubber mounting".
| Gram wrote: | | ...059 903 127A for the lower bush... |
PET has that x 2 as the sleeves for the LHD cars that go through the bushes. Sounds like your parts guy is WAY off on that one.
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tj924
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| Ozzie wrote: | | ...I have seen urethane bushes at suspension shops very similar to the rear bushes. I am going to try there. |
Let me know how you go & where you find them. I have to put mine back on so I can drive it this week so I can't can them in anywhere for camparison.
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Gram
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What are you using for the alternator drivebelt? The one on my car slips because it's too narrow and runs in the bottom of the alternator pulley. I saw a post about this a while ago but I can't find it .. The one I have is 492 A3 (made in USA  )
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Where would one get the PET cd? |
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Ozzie
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I have to put mine back on so I can drive it this week |
My Porka is the weekender so I'm right. Let you know.
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kaffine
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Neil924 wrote: | | Where would one get the PET cd? |
The legal version you can get from Pelican Parts or any Porsche dealer. I haven't gotton my copy yet so I'm not sure how easy it is to use, from the description on Pelican's website it's not the same as the actual PET program that dealers use though.
It's the Porsche Parts Refrence CD for $15.30
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/944M/POR_944M_documt_pg1.htm
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tj924
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Neil924 wrote: | | Where would one get the PET cd? |
eBay
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tj924
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Gram wrote: | | What are you using for the alternator drivebelt? |
Bosch 11A900 belt (11mm wide & 900mm around I think). Readily available at all auto parts stores here for around $10 & fits perfectly. The Bosch catalogue has a 10A890 belt for the 924, but I've not been able to source a 10A belt anywhere. Genuine belt would cost me about $15 + freight.
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