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doomer77

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Huskvarna, Sweden
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: engine cooling to much? |
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Im not worried my engine will overheat.. but im worried it cools to much,
when im standing still the engine heats up to about half the gauge, then when i start driving it moves down again into the white, especialy when going on the highway.
my car has the turbo cooling vents in the front added for style, think that causes it?
erik _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?
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1980 924 n/a - engine swap begun
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924er

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 339 Location: Los Angeles California
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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same with me !!! seriuously, how can an old car like mine stay so cool, not hot. my altima goes in guage goes in halfway, and thats an 05'. my 80' 924 goes one knotch over the C' white section on the guage then drops when i start cruising. im not even using anti-freeze im using water  _________________ 80' Porsche 924 NA - Slower then a S L O W
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Tigger937

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 919 Location: PCA Milwaukee Region
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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I would begin by checking the thermostat. First, make sure you have one installed and second, if you do, make sure it's the correct type and opens/closes at the proper temperatures. Sounds lke the symptoms you describe would correlate with not having a thermostat installed.
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Correction: After reading another post by Smoothie, it appears I stand corrected. Not having a thermostat installed would actually result in hotter temps. Don't want to mislead anyone. Here's the post with Smoothies explanation::
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=18154
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924er, you should use antifreeze. It not only protects against freezing, but also protects against boilovers and provides lubrication for the water pump. You should at least add water pump lube & anit-rust to the system (available at any auto parts store). _________________ 1981 931 (Concours)
1982 931 (Daily Driver)
"Think outside the box"
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Not only that it provides anti corrrosion to your aluminium head and other alloy parts. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Pure water is actually a better coolant than an antifreeze mixture.
If you want your cooling system to be less efficient, add the correct amount of a silicone and phosphate free antifreeze to your cooling system. |
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Tigger937

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 919 Location: PCA Milwaukee Region
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| gohim wrote: | Pure water is actually a better coolant than an antifreeze mixture.
If you want your cooling system to be less efficient, add the correct amount of a silicone and phosphate free antifreeze to your cooling system. |
You know, come to think of it gohim, I recall the last time I flushed my cooling system, before adding antifreeze, that the temp gauge was reading significantly cooler. Hmmmmmmmmm. _________________ 1981 931 (Concours)
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9102 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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i have that probelm too...my car never heats up at least its standing.
It has a termostat...i'm not shure it works...but it think it does...i've pushed the car realy hard on the track at high temps the last summer...it kept cool.
But in the winter the car never heats up and it eats a shit load of gas. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Some of us have installed lower temp thermostats and fan switches which are great in the summer, but don't work well in sub freezing temps. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
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doomer77

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Huskvarna, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: |
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antifreeze should be used bacause if the water freezes then you are #### and have to replace the whole system, enough said about that
why would i not have a termostat installed? The engine heat is normal when standing still (no matter of the temp outside) and drving slowly, but as soon as i speed up the temp drops. so i suspect its the wind that cools it..
really need help on this issue _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?
Carpe diem. and if that doesnt work; get drunk!
1980 924 n/a - engine swap begun
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9102 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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yea...my car acts exactly the same as yours doomer77.
I dont mind it in the summer...but in the winter...when i drive fast it moves the idle up to 1500 RPM. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Tigger937

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 919 Location: PCA Milwaukee Region
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| doomer77 wrote: | why would i not have a termostat installed? The engine heat is normal when standing still (no matter of the temp outside) and drving slowly, but as soon as i speed up the temp drops. so i suspect its the wind that cools it..
really need help on this issue |
Could still be a lazy thermostat, ie., weak spring causing it to open early and/or close later. The spring gets weak with age. While driving, heat is removed from the coolant more quickly and a thermostat that closes more slowly will result in cooler temps. _________________ 1981 931 (Concours)
1982 931 (Daily Driver)
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: |
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You need a higher temp thermostat or you can do it the old fashioned way: tape a hunk of something water proof over the front of about half of the radiator. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
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doomer77

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Huskvarna, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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hehe, would be a nice solution!
but if i wanna do it the 'proper' way then what? get a new thermostat? _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?
Carpe diem. and if that doesnt work; get drunk!
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Belgian924t
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Posts: 104 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Get a new thermostat.
see you saturday.
Greetz _________________ '79 931 with Carrera GT look
'86 944 turbo (sold)
'88 944 turbo S (sold)
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Paul

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