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kamphoto  



Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Sell or Restore Reply with quote

I am new to the board just looking for some advice.

I have a family member offering me a deal on what is supposed to be a 84 model 924. It has some minor body damge and looks to need a interior overhaul. I have not heard it run but was told that it has a fuel injection problem. The car will start but will only run with the accelarator held to the floor. I was told it floods out easily. The car has been parked and neglected for about 4 years with a sketchy hestory

I just have to get it home to SE Tennesse from just below Huntsville, Alabama.

Should I save it sell it or restore it.

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Ozzie  



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off make sure you have the right model and year.
After 82 there was no 924 sold in USA unless it was an import.
The 944 and 924S appeared after that and had a different motor.
Fuel and throttle problems can be easy or expensive.
It may be as simple as a vacuum hose off or as bad as a stuffed fuel distributor.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks pretty rough to me. most of the panels need work, and the interior is beyond repair. not sure on parts costs in US, but over here it would be a write off.

if you got it for the right price (free) and could get it running for a few hundred bucks. a couple of grand on making it reliable and comfortable, then you have a $1500-$2000 car that should be OK as a daily driver.

its really up to you. look around the board, through the technical section, and see how many of the common problems you have. then make a decision. few grand on the toofah, or a few grand on something a little newer and more reliable.

good luck

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D Hook  



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very strange that it has a 6-digit speedo. I've never seen one before in either 924's or early 944's.

I'm afraid the only way that's a "deal" is if they paid you to take it away because there's just no such thing as a "cheap Porsche". Unless you're looking for a project car to spend a very large wad of cash on, learn new four letter words, pray for the end of the world so the pain will stop, have a place to work on this for the next few years and are single with no aspirations of a relationship that involves another human being for that time; then I'd say you've found it! There's some pretty serious work there and you don't even know the condition of the motor or rest of the drive train.

Someone else take a look at the speedo and tell me if I'm seeing things or what. Ozzie's right, they stopped selling in the US after 82 and the 924S didn't arrive until 86, IIRC. You'd have to look around on the door sills for an import sticker, if it was imported. Any pics of the motor?

Good luck and welcome to the board!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's got 4-bolt wheels on, doesn't that make it a fairly early-ish model?
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Viking  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adding to what the others have said and agreeing with them.

It's unlikely to be an 84, it doesn't have rear spoiler, and since 83-85 were euro only, it's even more unlikely since it has american bumpers. The speedometer isn't stock, it only goes to 140 kmph, 64 kmph shy of the top speed.
On the nice side, it's got the embossed innerdoors with the PORSCHE title, and a three spoke steeringwheel (I'm weak for them).

It's going to take you a lot of time time to restore it, and since the engine doesn't work properly and the body looks badly dented in the pictures, my personal opinion is that it's not worth it unless you plan to make one car from two cars, or need it for spares.

It's going to cost $$$ to restore this car, thousands at least. Have it inspected by someone who knows cars, a garage maybe, before you decide to tackle it, or you will end up with more things to fix then you initially planned for.

Of course, if you know how to do bodywork, and you are good with tools, and you are looking for something to spend the next six months on, then this might be a "fun" project.
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924RACR  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd slate it as a later model, 80-82 924 2.0L NA

Speedo is stock for US.

Thought those might've been sport seats, but I guess maybe not looking at later pics.

It's not that bad, IMO. Still, will take quite some time and energy, as well as some money, to restore - they're not always worth it.

Fuel injection likely will require new or rebuilt fuel distributor, if tuning adjustments won't fix it. Expect all chassis components to require replacement (brakes, shocks, tires, bushings) for it to drive half-decent, in addition to getting the engine running. Expect to have electrical gremlins to work out.

Cosmetically, it's not so bad IMO for the year and neglect. That spray paint will rub off with a little time, elbow grease, and rubbing compound. Morons. I do like the spiderweb rims, though, and those are the rarer 4-bolt style.

I wouldn't run screaming from it, but wouldn't give more than $1kUSD for it.
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81turbo  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run Fast!
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gohim  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The car could be anything from a 81 to a 85 924. Platinum Metallic was a fairly common color starting in 1981. Many/most of the privately 83 and newer 924s that I have seen here in the US are/were in fact the same color.

A quick review of the VIN Number would end all of the speculation. Porsche sold cars in Eurpoe for private importation to the US after 1982. All of the those cars would have US specd legal emissions and safety equipment. Without the VIN Number, I could still figure out what model year the car is by looking at the hoses under the hood. Porsche made a production change to the hose materials, after they stopped officially importing/marketing 924s in the US in 82.

The only inconsistence in the post 81 theory is the missing rear spoiler. Without a look at the rear glass for the holes, I can't tell for sure, but from the side it looks like it may have been removed.

Also looks like the car had rear splash guards which would also point to this car as being a 81 or later. The rear splash guards were not offered in packages of seperately on 924NA until after 1981. The wheels look like they have the 1981 Weissach Special Edition finish, and not the standard painted basketweave wheel finsh (I can't tell from the photos for sure).
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D Hook  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see six digits on the top of that speedo:

052742

What's up with that?
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Paul  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing for sure that odometer is busted and the car has a lot more miles on it.

I vote save it!

I would offer to haul if away for free only if it has a clear title. Might pay $500, but certainly no more.

Please post the VIN or look for the year of the car on the emissions sticker or the sticker in the driver's door jamb.

Based on the door panels, the steering wheel, the heater controls, and the rear seat belts, my guess is it was made in 1981.
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Stu2j  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a hunk of junk....

Based on the heater controls, it is pre 82.5
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924-76  



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The car will start but will only run with the accelarator held to the floor. I was told it floods out easily."

I'm working on a euro 924, '76 since 2 years as hobbie. Lot of time lot of energie but also lot of fun and learning a lot.
A had the same probleme and it was only the fuel distributor that was stick wild open. So, max gas whit min. air will floods out your engine. And the fact the it running whene you floor it, it's becaus you give him max air.
In my case, I just had to open and clean the fuel distributor.
Over all, this car not looking to bad for a PROJECT CAR, of cours at a min price.[i]
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Alan  



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good that you provided a link to the pictures. While it is exciting to think about what the car would look like after restoration work, I tend to agree with the consensus of the others in the list. That is, it is likely to take alot more time, trouble, and $$$$ to get it the way you would like it. Especially for engine-related work/parts, all of that can add up quickly. If you can get it for dirt cheap, spend $2-3K on it (inside and out), it may turn out to be a neat car. You may save yourself alot of heartache by getting it for a good price, but using it for a parts car for other more promising projects you may find. Keep an eye on the list, though--I recently bought a gorgeous silver '79 via the list....Alan
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