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seanski44

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 532 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:09 am Post subject: 931 handbrake seized - quick way of unseizing? |
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Hi all,
I know I've posted a myriad of stuff about my NA recently, but as I've moving house in about a week, the 931 will have to be trailered to my brothers. The handbrake is seized. Am I right in thinking that the way to unseize it is to remove the wheel and give the disc a good hammering?
any help or other suggestions welcomed.
it will move with the shoes seized, but I'd like it to roll freely. _________________ 1998 BMW Z3 2.8 arctic silver & red
1981 168HP 931 S2 blue/tan leather - SOLD
1985 121HP 924 2.0l na modded - SOLD!
1992 968 lux SOLD
1989 944 2.7 lux SOLD |
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: |
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You'd damage the disc.
Maybe the drum housing with a wooden mallet after taking off the disc. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
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tux

Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: |
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As Ozzie says drum brakes can sometimes be shocked free by a couple of well placed blows. Depending how long it has been standing a short tow can sometimes snap them free too. _________________ Pete
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried reverse, sometimes it will free stuck shoes?
The hub of the rotor is the drum.... _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you know whether it's the shoes stuck to the drums (rotors), or the cable siezed to it's housing, or the handle not releasing? |
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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I know it's too late for you now, Sean, but for future reference, if a car is to be stored for any length of time, then the handbrake ought to be released and the car chocked to stop it rolling away.
Also operating the clutch once every couple of weeks helps, too. A stuck clutch is a real bugger to free! _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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seanski44

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 532 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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hi all,
first, reverse would be great if the car actually ran!
second, the handbrake was already seized when we bought the motor - I don't think we've ever applied it.
third, not sure if its the cable or shoes, is there an easy way to tell?
Cheers all... _________________ 1998 BMW Z3 2.8 arctic silver & red
1981 168HP 931 S2 blue/tan leather - SOLD
1985 121HP 924 2.0l na modded - SOLD!
1992 968 lux SOLD
1989 944 2.7 lux SOLD |
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Well it could be all the discs have grabbed and jammed as well as the handbrake.
For discs try to separate the pads and the discs with a bit of leverage or retracting tool taking care not to score/damage either.
When free pump the brake back up again.
First I'd raise and remove front wheels and turn to check brakes.
For the rear check to see if the handbrake cable is loose.
If it is not seized it should be loose at the drum end.
Operate the lever and check the tension changes.
If it is seized then start looking at ways to get it free.
You may need to cut it off and get a new one.
If the cable is free and the brake is still engaged then a few good whacks with a wood/plastic mallet should free it up.
If the car has sat for a long time your wheel bearings could be suspect.
Hit the drum housing not the disc.
Hammer are always good at hitting objects near the target. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Ozzie wrote: | | Hammer are always good at hitting objects near the target. |
...like thumbs!!  _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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seanski44

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 532 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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cheers guys, will schedule all of this in amongst my packing  _________________ 1998 BMW Z3 2.8 arctic silver & red
1981 168HP 931 S2 blue/tan leather - SOLD
1985 121HP 924 2.0l na modded - SOLD!
1992 968 lux SOLD
1989 944 2.7 lux SOLD |
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: |
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If the car isn't running, you'll need to winch it onto the trailer anyway, so it doesn't sound as if it's too much of an issue. It's not as if the wheels are locked solid... _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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seanski44

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 532 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| Mike924 wrote: | | If the car isn't running, you'll need to winch it onto the trailer anyway, so it doesn't sound as if it's too much of an issue. It's not as if the wheels are locked solid... |
you're absolutely right, and we did that when we brought it to my house and started the work. Its just that I'd like to make it as painless as poss as I'm paying someone to move it (actually on a flatbed) rather than hiring van/trailer etc, so the longer it takes the potentially more expensive it gets! _________________ 1998 BMW Z3 2.8 arctic silver & red
1981 168HP 931 S2 blue/tan leather - SOLD
1985 121HP 924 2.0l na modded - SOLD!
1992 968 lux SOLD
1989 944 2.7 lux SOLD |
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tux

Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: |
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I have a selection of hammers ranging from an 8 ounce tapping hammer right through to a 15 pound sledge hammer if you get stuck!
Seriously though, let me know if you need a hand dude. _________________ Pete
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seanski44

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 532 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| tux wrote: | I have a selection of hammers ranging from an 8 ounce tapping hammer right through to a 15 pound sledge hammer if you get stuck!
Seriously though, let me know if you need a hand dude. |
might well take you up on that - will see how the packing goes this weekend - have booked the van hire - LWB tranny  _________________ 1998 BMW Z3 2.8 arctic silver & red
1981 168HP 931 S2 blue/tan leather - SOLD
1985 121HP 924 2.0l na modded - SOLD!
1992 968 lux SOLD
1989 944 2.7 lux SOLD |
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