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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: Winter tyres? |
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Hey all,
In the UK winter means road chaos and mass panic, to get ahead of it all do any of you have any recommendations for winter tyres?
Cheers
Rich _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec |
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1378 Location: Holland
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Winter tyres? |
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I'm not gonna discuss tyre brands, dear.
Consider if you want to drive on summer tyres next summer.
Get yourself a spare set of wheels to use during winter.
Change all FOUR tyres and buy them NEW!
- Take two and you'll end up doing pirouettes.
- New because you'd like to be on the save side the next few years and you don't know where the old ones have been
Have these ready before the cold sets in!
Your local tyreshop will appreciate that, believe me.
Condition your summer wheels/tyres before you put them in storage and note the position they had on the car.
Change back to summer (harder) tyres in time.
Drive safely & enjoy.
Cheers. _________________ Porsche 924 NA 1982 LY7A/A3A3 _ Greater driving pleasure never harmed anyone. |
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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have a spare set of spiderwebs so they will be autumn (Now) / winter only and I'll change back next year.
My normal tyres are all weather so a compromise that normally works, but seeing as we have sleet on the hills already I want to get proper new winter tyres sorted now.
Marking their location is a good idea.
The reason I want them is because we have 3 cars to choose from:
Lotus Esprit (RWD/Mid engine/Turbo/265 bhp/~1200kg)
Smart Roadster (RWD/Mid engine/Turbo/80bhp/1100kg)
Porsche 924 Turbo (RWD/50% weight distibution/Turbo/177bhp/~1200kg)
The Lotus is mental all the time (And blows up regularly), the Smart is lethal in slippery conditions...So the Porsche makes most sense in winter!
Now tell me about brands please  _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Are you going to use studded or friction tyres? Nokian tyres is probably the most trusted brand here. http://www.nokiantyres.com/ _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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No studs, I dont' think they would be a good idea!
We don't get an enormous amount of snow and ice but I want to remain mobile, early this year it was chaos with packed snow and ice everywhere for months.
Will check out that link, thanks
Rich _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec |
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Mike9311

Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1798 Location: Chicago-ish
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Winter tyres? |
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| Rich H wrote: | Hey all,
In the UK winter means road chaos and mass panic, to get ahead of it all do any of you have any recommendations for winter tyres?
Cheers
Rich |
I had extremely good luck with Nokian Hakkawhatevers (Hakkapaeltta??). The Fins know snow and it turned a rear drive 535i into a car I wasn't afraid to drive anywhere. _________________ 1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car |
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bnoon
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 607 Location: West Des Moines, IA USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:24 am Post subject: |
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I've had about 6 different brands of winter tires and the best have been Blizzak WS-50's and WS-60's. Don't bother with the WS-25's, they suck so bad I can't even believe they are from the same manufacturer.
I've used Nokian's and they are fine, but not as good as the Blizzaks. I have also used Firestone Winterfires, Pirelli S2 snows, General Artic Altimax, Michelin Artic Alpin... all good, but not as good. _________________ '80 924 Turbo - SOLD!
1986 Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD!
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Mike9311

Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1798 Location: Chicago-ish
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| bnoon wrote: | I've had about 6 different brands of winter tires and the best have been Blizzak WS-50's and WS-60's. Don't bother with the WS-25's, they suck so bad I can't even believe they are from the same manufacturer.
I've used Nokian's and they are fine, but not as good as the Blizzaks. I have also used Firestone Winterfires, Pirelli S2 snows, General Artic Altimax, Michelin Artic Alpin... all good, but not as good. |
Yah ( i know we are starting something here ) my Hakka's outlasted the Blizzaks my buddy had 3:1 and he had a lighter car. I don't know but the hakka's could throw snow with only one drawback when compared to blizaks and that was ice. The Blizaks won that one by a small margin in my eyes. _________________ 1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car |
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joecitizennn

Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 2096 Location: no mans land
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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Cheers all!
Thanks
Rich _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec |
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CorsePerVita

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1992 Location: Redmond, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: |
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i've got dunlop sport winters on my 944, love them to death. _________________ - 1977 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (Trackday Project)
- 1979 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (The other daily)
- 1980 Porsche 931 (Daily)
- 1987 Lamborghini Jalpa
- 1999 Ducati 900SS |
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bnoon
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 607 Location: West Des Moines, IA USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| Mike9311 wrote: | | bnoon wrote: | I've had about 6 different brands of winter tires and the best have been Blizzak WS-50's and WS-60's. Don't bother with the WS-25's, they suck so bad I can't even believe they are from the same manufacturer.
I've used Nokian's and they are fine, but not as good as the Blizzaks. I have also used Firestone Winterfires, Pirelli S2 snows, General Artic Altimax, Michelin Artic Alpin... all good, but not as good. |
Yah ( i know we are starting something here ) my Hakka's outlasted the Blizzaks my buddy had 3:1 and he had a lighter car. I don't know but the hakka's could throw snow with only one drawback when compared to blizaks and that was ice. The Blizaks won that one by a small margin in my eyes. |
Hakka's? Never heard of those, so I can't comment. The winter tires I've owned last me 3 seasons before time for replacement. I typically replace them at about half wear so that I can sell them on craigslist or ebay to spread the cost out farther. _________________ '80 924 Turbo - SOLD!
1986 Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD!
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Mike9311

Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 1798 Location: Chicago-ish
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| bnoon wrote: | | Mike9311 wrote: | | bnoon wrote: | I've had about 6 different brands of winter tires and the best have been Blizzak WS-50's and WS-60's. Don't bother with the WS-25's, they suck so bad I can't even believe they are from the same manufacturer.
I've used Nokian's and they are fine, but not as good as the Blizzaks. I have also used Firestone Winterfires, Pirelli S2 snows, General Artic Altimax, Michelin Artic Alpin... all good, but not as good. |
Yah ( i know we are starting something here ) my Hakka's outlasted the Blizzaks my buddy had 3:1 and he had a lighter car. I don't know but the hakka's could throw snow with only one drawback when compared to blizaks and that was ice. The Blizaks won that one by a small margin in my eyes. |
Hakka's? Never heard of those, so I can't comment. The winter tires I've owned last me 3 seasons before time for replacement. I typically replace them at about half wear so that I can sell them on craigslist or ebay to spread the cost out farther. |
http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=11890&group=1.01&name=Nokian+Hakkapeliitta+5
Its an even newer design now and a 70 year history. So, likely one of the first winter tires. Seriously good tire from my experience _________________ 1980 931 since 1989
1981 Ideola 931 Club Sport
1982 931 Entwicklungsfahrzeug
1979 924 NA ohne 650 mit 471
1982 931 Red Resurrection - 951 IC
1982 931 parts car / resurrection?
1980 924 NA (R&D lightweight)
1982 931 wana-be GTR race car |
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bnoon
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 607 Location: West Des Moines, IA USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| Mike9311 wrote: | | bnoon wrote: | | Mike9311 wrote: | | bnoon wrote: | I've had about 6 different brands of winter tires and the best have been Blizzak WS-50's and WS-60's. Don't bother with the WS-25's, they suck so bad I can't even believe they are from the same manufacturer.
I've used Nokian's and they are fine, but not as good as the Blizzaks. I have also used Firestone Winterfires, Pirelli S2 snows, General Artic Altimax, Michelin Artic Alpin... all good, but not as good. |
Yah ( i know we are starting something here ) my Hakka's outlasted the Blizzaks my buddy had 3:1 and he had a lighter car. I don't know but the hakka's could throw snow with only one drawback when compared to blizaks and that was ice. The Blizaks won that one by a small margin in my eyes. |
Hakka's? Never heard of those, so I can't comment. The winter tires I've owned last me 3 seasons before time for replacement. I typically replace them at about half wear so that I can sell them on craigslist or ebay to spread the cost out farther. |
http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=11890&group=1.01&name=Nokian+Hakkapeliitta+5
Its an even newer design now and a 70 year history. So, likely one of the first winter tires. Seriously good tire from my experience |
Ahhhh, forgot that was their name of their winter tires. Perhaps worthy of another review after all of these years. _________________ '80 924 Turbo - SOLD!
1986 Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD!
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Carrera RSR

Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 2312 Location: Somerset, UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| 9xx wrote: | | Are you going to use studded or friction tyres? Nokian tyres is probably the most trusted brand here. http://www.nokiantyres.com/ |
That's because they are Finnish!?! _________________ 1980 931 - forged pistons, Piper cam, K27/26 3257 6.10 hybrid turbo, 951 FMIC, custom intake, Mittelmotor dizzy & cam pulley, H&S exhaust, GAZ Gold, Fuch'ed, Quaife
Now www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=34690
Then www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=31252 |
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