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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: Gaskets, thing of the past, seemingly |
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I'm going to replace my camshaft over the Easter break, so I'll need to remove the dizzy housing and therefore it'll need a new gasket for when I put it back on. Also, for an unconnected reason ( ), I need to replace the thermostat housing, which will, obviously, need a new gasket.
I went to half a dozen places to get the gaskets: no-one does them! Not just for a 924, no-one does gaskets - period! "We can sell you a complete head set, sir". Thanks a bunch!
OK, so no gaskets. How about some gasket paper so I can make up my own? "Don't sell that either, sir" Arrgh!
So what are you supposed to do? Eventually, I got a guy at a place that services trucks to take pity on me and let me have some of their stock of gasket paper. _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I buy gasket paper at the local generic parts store.
Usually has plenty. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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That's right, rub it in!
There just aren't enough tinkerers in the UK anymore for shop to stock stuff like that. We must be a dying breed! _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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Jaf
Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 194 Location: Oria. Spain
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I couldn't find any gasket paper either. Used a heavy duty brown envelope in the end! _________________ 1978 924na |
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Tigger937

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 919 Location: PCA Milwaukee Region
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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.........and what's even tougher is trying to find asbestos based gasket material for exhaust items. ...........or are folks just knuckling under and buying the outrageously priced OEM stuff? What are folks using here?
Mike924, I was able to find the regular gasket material at the local generic parts store for the thermostat and dizzy housing and make my own. _________________ 1981 931 (Concours)
1982 931 (Daily Driver)
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jimcarver

Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 45 Location: London, UK
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that, Jim. Good find.
It's £3 for a dizzy housing gasket, which converts to over £7 when you add in VAT and postage (and VAT on the postage!)
I managed to find a throttle gasket from another car in my 'box-o-bits', which fitted the thermostat housing (with a bit of fettling).
Unless the dizzy housing gasket's ridiculously too complicated, I'll have a go at making one from the gasket paper I've now managed to get. If not, I'll have to swallow my pride and dig into my pocket... _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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I made both recently and its a breeze with the paper.
IIRC the thermostat also has an 'O' ring. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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Mike924

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Ozzie.
It's the thermostat housing gasket where it bolts to the head I need - I didn't think there was a gasket at the stub-pipe end; just the O-ring as you say.
Great pic of the dizzy housing! - this is exactly what I needed to see. Thanks. Like you say, it looks a pretty simple simple thing to knock up (apart from the eight(!) bolt holes!).
I'm much happier now with the plan of making a dizzy housing gasket and won't be forking out the £7+ (Aus $20!) for a 'proper' one.
Thanks, again. _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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I use the ball part of the ball pein hammer for the holes after doing the large hole first.
Put the bolts in the holes to hold the gasket paper still and go around the outside with the hammer.
The paper cuts away leaving the shape you see in the pic.
( the thermo above was from the daughters car)
I also use a non hardening sealant both sides on assembly. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, Ozzie, I'm being a bit thick, here.
Can you explain the bit with the hammer a bit more? You don't mean clout the part to cut through the paper, do you?
| Ozzie wrote: | | I also use a non hardening sealant both sides on assembly. | Hylomar Blue! _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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In the top pic is a small ball hammer.
I tap the paper along the edge of the part you want the gasket for.
The sharp edge of the part cuts the paper.
like so
 _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Right! I get it (Sorry for being so thick!)
Very ingenious! Thanks, Ozzie. _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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Ozzie

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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welcome _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ozzie, there must be a way to combine your technique with some other technique that doesn't involve hammer-related whacking. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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