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Lovecake  



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: New car arrived yesterday! Reply with quote

My new 1982 n/a arrived from Melbourne yesterday,and I've got to say I'm very impressed.

The paint is a bit shabby, one quarter window is broken (an attempted break-in), and it's front spoiler, sway bar and radiator fan are in the boot due to a run in with a ditch that damaged some brackets. Some style guru also thought that the (fake) industrial sheet metal look was appropriate for the interior .

However, the engine sounds fantastic, even compared to my other one which was certainly no slouch (Speaking of which, I've got a good working spare of nearly every part under the house in my wrecked '79). It's also got all manner of aftermarket extras like cruise control and a speaker system (won't know if this is a good or bad thing until I have a closer look at the quality of the wiring). I'm looking forward to getting tis thing back on the road in the next couple of weeks so I'll keep you posted.

A few questions:

1. The guy I bought it off said it takes a long time to start after it sits for a while, which I discovered yesterday. It turned over but wouldn't fire up, and the starter is really slow for about 2 seconds when the key is turned. However, now it seems to start fine. Any ideas as to a cause for this?

2. It's got an aftermarket spoiler, similar style to the 944 one but mounted to the car's body itself, just below the hatch seal. Has anyone had any experience with these? It seems like it would be more likely to catch gunk and corrode the body underneath and I'm tossing up whether to remove it and the standard hatch altogether and install the 944 hatch and spoiler from my '79.

Thanks for reading my extended babbling
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Smoothie  



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

#1 - Sounds like just a discharging battery - over time, it loses some charge, so starting is slow. -Then once it is started, the battery gets charged and subsequent starts are better as long as not much time has elapsed.

#2 - I'd be thinking the same thing. I'm imagining a spoiler placed like that acting like a spoon, catching and holding water and junk right there and probably letting some of it get into the car through the hatch seal.
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Neil924  



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Is the battery old? Could it be a fuel delivery problem?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoothie wrote:

#2 - I'd be thinking the same thing. I'm imagining a spoiler placed like that acting like a spoon, catching and holding water and junk right there and probably letting some of it get into the car through the hatch seal.


Like on my car?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 to fuel delivery for the warm-start problem. If the engine is fresh and you can rule it out, start hunting for vacuum leaks and checking injectors -- hole each over a glass during different starting / running conditions. Then work your way back from the warm-up regulator to the fuel filter, accumulator(s), check valve, fuel pump.
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endwrench  



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the spoiler look like this?

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19342&highlight=rear+spoiler

Todd
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Lovecake  



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endwrench wrote:
Does the spoiler look like this?

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19342&highlight=rear+spoiler

Todd


That's it exactly, although mine is mounted so as to allow about an inch of bodywork between the top of the spoiler and the hatch seal, preventing it from putting water into the boot. I'll definitely pull it off and have a look underneath as it sounds potentially nasty.

I'll definitely check the fuel system and also the electrical stuff, as I'm wondering whether some of the aftermarket electronics and wiring might be draining the battery when it's parked - the stereo is always on standby mode, for example.

Thanks for all the replies
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Neil924  



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovecake wrote:
endwrench wrote:
Does the spoiler look like this?

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19342&highlight=rear+spoiler

Todd


That's it exactly, although mine is mounted so as to allow about an inch of bodywork between the top of the spoiler and the hatch seal, preventing it from putting water into the boot. I'll definitely pull it off and have a look underneath as it sounds potentially nasty.

I'll definitely check the fuel system and also the electrical stuff, as I'm wondering whether some of the aftermarket electronics and wiring might be draining the battery when it's parked - the stereo is always on standby mode, for example.

Thanks for all the replies


My car has that style and as long as you don't park your car under trees for weeks on end, I don't see how there could be a problem?

Just keep the car free of debris.
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Mike924  



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds to me that your car has the classic "hot start problem", Lovecake. (Does your wife call you that? )

I am convinced that the proper cure for this is a new accumulator. Don't be tempted by a second hand/used one. I believe that diaphragm becomes porous with age and hence the accumulator loses its effectiveness, which in turn, causes the HSP (hot start problem).

Actual 924 ones are getting hard to come by these days. I fitted a new Golf GTi unit on my car, but I had to change one of the fuel lines because the inlet connector on the VW unit was a different size. Result: No HSP on my car now!
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