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mgatlag  



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: weird grinding at gear shifter? Reply with quote

my 924 just started making a funny grind felt at the gear shifter when I am above 40mph. It happens when I try to downshift from 4th into 3rd. It doesn't do it much, just at the last second when it pops into gear.
I also hear a funny noise when the car is running in neutral and the clutch is out. It's coming from the drive tube, I think. When I push the clutch pedal down, it stops. Any thoughts?
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Neil924  



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could that be the clutch and worn syncros?

How old is your clutch? It sounds like it's partly engaged and then when you depress the clutch pedal you disengaged it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the clutch has only about 2000 miles on it at the most. The car set for 10+ years until last year. Is there any fluid in the tranny that I should maybe check?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgatlag wrote:
the clutch has only about 2000 miles on it at the most. The car set for 10+ years until last year. Is there any fluid in the tranny that I should maybe check?


So is it a 10 year old clutch that "you" put 2,000 miles on? Or is the clutch a year old from brand new.

I had a clutch sort of "go out" like you describe. I had a rear main seal leak that the clutch was absorbing and then it started slipping just a little.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgatlag wrote:
Is there any fluid in the tranny that I should maybe check?


Oh geeze, you could search for that, I'm not sure if bad oil could cause this, do you have any leaks?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the clutch needs re-adjusting. ?

Yes, check that fluid. There'll be both fill and drain plugs - make sure you can remove the higher-up fill plug before removing the drain.
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mgatlag  



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the clutch was put in last xmas time and was new then. Is there a special type of fluid I should be buying? I do have a few oil leak on the rebuilt engine and have suspected the rear main seal. But it is new, maybe I didn't get it completely seated when I pressed it on. Could the other noise I'm hearing be the drive tube? It only makes that noise when in neutral and clutch not engaged.
I just yesterday adjusted the play in the clutch and got it better. But for some reason I can't bark the tires going from 1st to 2nd. I know I probably shouldn't be trying it, but come on, how can I not? I just seems to not have the same "pop" as it did when I first got her back on the road. Almost like I'm losing power....
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From all I've read you should really not be abusing the transmission, they work well but are old and aren't meant to be hammered. How long have you been doing that?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only barked them 2 times. I don't run it too hard, just wanted to try after I got everything done on the engine. I know this car isn't a racer but I know it's not a complete turd too. After waiting since I was 10 yrs old for the car, and getting it last year, it's hard to not test it a little. It's not my primary transportation, so if I break something, I just get to learn to fix it. When the tranny does finally go, I'll put a 5 speed in.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An EP grade oil in the 80 to 90 range is specified. You'll need two litres.

I sneaked a couple of ounces of moly compound in there at my last change.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there a way to inspect the syncros? and is there a good/better/best choice for the brand of fluid?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, I use Mobil-1 synthetic gear lube in all of mine...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgatlag wrote:
is there a way to inspect the syncros?

Yes: remove the transaxle, split the gearbox, strip the gears and have a good look at the synchro rings...
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