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Neil924

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: What is the stock spring rate for a '77 924? |
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I'm replacing mine to get a little more height {mine we cut as part of the lowering procedure} and I'm not sure of the specs.
Is there a way to tell my measuring the diameter of the spring and the distance between the rungs?
Also what was the stock spring rate numbers?
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RC

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Neil924

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Damn it, I didn't think it was here ands I didn't even search. Don't tell my dad!  |
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Neil924

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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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So 140 - 170 is what I will guess is on my car right now.
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Cutting a spring will change its rate. _________________ 78 924 NA
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Neil924

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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| !tom wrote: | | Cutting a spring will change its rate. |
Can you expand on that please?
Will it make the spring harder? Does the difference change more if you cut more off or as soon as you cut it, no matter how much you take off?
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Cutting the spring will increase the rate because the overall length is shorter. The about the rate is changed depends on the amount cut off, not the fact that you have cut it. Cutting 1/8" off the end of your front springs won't have any practical effect on the rate, but an amount to change the ride height will.
Imagine the spring unwound, and imagine the foce needed to deflect it. I find it easy to visualise springs this way, and it is clear that a shorter spring takes more force to move it the same distance than a longer spring. This is in fact what happens when you coil the spring back up again and stick it on your car. _________________ 78 924 NA
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Neil924

Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 4225 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| !tom wrote: | Cutting the spring will increase the rate because the overall length is shorter. The amount the rate is changed depends on the amount cut off, not the fact that you have cut it. Cutting 1/8" off the end of your front springs won't have any practical effect on the rate, but an amount to change the ride height will.
Imagine the spring unwound, and imagine the force needed to deflect it. I find it easy to visualise springs this way, and it is clear that a shorter spring takes more force to move it the same distance than a longer spring. This is in fact what happens when you coil the spring back up again and stick it on your car. |
Thanks for the explanation. So if you have a regular UN-lowered 92 and take 4 inches off a spring that say is a 200, how much stiffness will be "put in" to it? I know it's an odd question but would the rate for up 10 or more like 40?
Thanks again for your last post, it was very informative. |
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!tom

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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: |
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You'll have to figure it out yourself, since I don't know enough information off-hand.
If you change the length of a spring by 10%, the rate of the spring will change by 10%. So, determine the amount of spring cut off relative to the original length of the spring, and this is what your rate changed by.
The same goes for torsion springs as well. . . _________________ 78 924 NA
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