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Cone_Eater  



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: 924-SE Reply with quote

Someone recently told me there was a 924-SE. Can anyone explain more? What makes it an "SE"? Any special options? How many made?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"search" is your friend... but for a quick recap:

there is one 924SE in the US that im aware of, I own it. that is one that was , from the factory , labeled "Special Edition" ,unverified option E-18. it included a special edition marketing package with SE side stripes and rear "Special Edition" decal, sport seats, steering wheel, premium sound, and a few other upgrades.

the later 924S version, commonly known as special edition, was actually a Leman's "Special Model" 924S , and was lightened featuring manual windows, no sunroof, manual mirrors, and lighter weight carpet and interior bits. IMO it was closer to a club sport set up. there may have been some suspension upgrades as well on this model, not sure. Vince here in the boards had one for awhile as well as a couple of others, search and you will find more info:)
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joecitizennn  



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1988 LeMans SE, Option Code 756
I have one. It has 6" wide front wheels and 7" wide rear wheels. Behind the rear wheels are plastic rock guards. Suspension consists of threaded adjustable front coil-overs, adjustable Koni shocks all around, and thicker sway-bars. The engine has 163 HP, with different pistons, rolled steel headers, and possibly some computer differences (not sure on that one). The clutch pedal is considerably heavier than on a regular car, and acceleration is noticeably better. The can has manual mirrors, manual windows, cloth door panels and rear seat. The cloth is burgundy and grey striped and hideous. The front seats on my car came all vinyl with burgundy piping which is sort of rare as I hear most of the SE cars had cloth front seats. The carpet is burgundy and the car has a sunroof, power steering and AC. The hood is un-insulated. The car is very fast for a 924. I have had it top 140mph with no modifications to the engine at all, running regular gas.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koni adjustables have a hard, medium, and soft setting. what setting did the car come with from the factory and what setting do you currently run?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dash - I have an '88 Special Edition (option 756) with sport suspension (option 030). My front koni's are not adjustable for stiffness (it is what it is) but the front struts are height adjustable. My rear koni's are adjustable for stiffness - they came from the factory set to the "full soft" setting. I believe there were four settings available - I now have them set to the second-firmest setting. Your '87 seems to have the standard suspension (based on your option codes) - I do not know if yours are adjustable. Here are some pics of my 030 suspension (original as delivered from the factory).

http://www.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=331&folderid=254435&groupid=330893&folderview=thumbs&ck=
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never messed with the settings on my front shocks. The only reason I know they are adjustable is I blew one during the winter when I hit a pothole. It was like zero degrees out. When I removed it I noticed it was marked "adjustable", and dated 87. (the car is the 88 model). I find it interesting ronjeds, that your front shocks were not adjustable. Also interesting is the fact your rear rims are 6" instead of 7. I know that your car was one of the very first of the 500 US cars built, wheras, mine was among the last 10. Maybe thats why.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My car is currently in Illinois, but when i get back home, I plan on putting some low profile High performance summer tires on it, and lowering the front coil-overs as low as they will go and re-indexing the rear to match. With that I will set my Koni shocks as stiff as is practical. Then I can really appreciate the Mo3o suspension.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another SE owner checking in.

The car was produced to celebrate porsches victory at Lemans, so youll also hear them called Lemans editions. About 900 were made world wide. 200 were white, the rest black. The US got 500 of them, all black. The sunroof on the car was optional, as were the rear rock guards. The engine is the same motor used in the 88 944, its a high compression motor 10.2:1 v 9.7:1 IIRC and to whomever is said they are using regular gas keep in mind that porsche says 91 octane or higher! The main differences for the US cars are 7" rear wheels, adjustable front suspension (both height and damping shoudl be adjustable, I just think that you need to remove the fronts to adjust sort of like the rears) I think its a 23mm front sway bar, and it does have a 20mm rear sway bar.

As stated earlier the interior is this nasty gray with burgendy stripes. The cloth is very thin and hasnt held up well. The car only has a driver side window and it is manual. The windows and locks are both manual as well.

The cars in europe had green pinmstriping and stickers and I thintk eh wheels had green stickers as well. A google search will turn up some pics, and the cars were referred to as Lemans edition across the pond.

The cars were very popular showroiom stock racers when they were produced. As such I decided to rip the trashed interior out of mine, put a roll cage in and go racing! It is the lightest 924s that they made afterall!!



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont plan on running 140mph again anytime soon. Since you race a LeMans edition regurlarly, what kind of a top end does it get with high octane gas?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tough to say as my speedo is not accurate with the 225 50 15 tires im running. At Road Atlanta the speedo was reading 120-125 which according to my calculations on the tires I was using there (205 50 15) I was hitting 115 on the straights. Road courses arent about top speed, they are about maintaining speed through corners. For example, turn 12 at Road Atlanta is a downhill right hander. You are at about 4k rpm in 4th gear as you enter the turn and its full throttle all the way. I was shifting in to 5th just past the exit curbing. Talk about fun!!! See for yourself:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/86a1f239-f248-485b-87a1-991b0096ed69.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have figured during your racing career, you'd had some oppertunity to drive wide open on a track. Where do you get your 225 50 15 tires?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most tracks dont have straights long enough to get to top speed. These cars arent exactly known for their acceleration. But I am thinking about signing up for some track time at Daytona in December so I may get a chance!!! As long as I dont roll off the banking LOL.

The tires I use on track are toyo RA1s, and not really good street tires. I buy them locally from a store in Silver Spring MD, called Radial Tire. They do mail order as well if youre interested www.radialtire.com has their number. Call and talk to Paul, hes awesome!! Even gives PCA (and other club) discounts if youre a member. Since I can pick them up I usually spen less mounted and balanced then I do if I mail order from tire rack.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so how many miles are on that LeMans now and how is it holding up to a racing life?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

92k IIRC. Ive only had it for a year and a half. I have replaced a lot of stuff in the suspension/brake department to get it ready for the track. The only thing Ive broken on track was the catalytic converter, and the lower radiator hose. One time I smacked the muffler on the curbing, and it broke a weld. The car has never overheated and it gets hot as hell here! The car is down on power right now (dynoed at 116 whp ) but I think thats because the cat was broken. Its been pretty reliable (although its not running right now I think the reference sensor went out) so I have a few last maintenence items Id like to address over the winter like rod bearings, and Ill start working more on the setup, but my alignment guy really knows how to make these cars handle! Then Im thinking about yanking the motor for a rebuild, and Id like to get a LSD at some point, but the more money I spend on parts, the less I have to drive the thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

116 hp? That it not good at all. Thats like 50 hp too low.
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