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skytrooper

Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 461 Location: Canandaigua, NY
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: Another wheel question |
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I have the opportunity to buy a set of Hoosier track tires mounted on porsche rims.
The owner stated to me that the offset is 50 and 55. Since the 924 stock offset is 52...would I need spacers for these to fit ? Would I also need to roll the fender lip ?
Sorry to ask so many questions as of late but I am also trying to figure out what is required equipment in 4 different sanctioning bodies (PCA, SCCA, EMRA, and NASA) for time trial and DE. My head is swimming _________________ Matt
1987 - 924S "Black Pearl"
1982 - BMW 633CSi
1984 - BMW 528e
1983 - 944 N/A "Blue Max" (Gone)
1981 - 931 "Scarlet Harlot" (Gone)
1976 911S Targa (Gone) |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9102 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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it depends on what 924 are we talking about...the 4lug 924 wheel has 23ET not 52....also...it depends on how wide the rims are....ET50 does not tell you enough without the width of the rim. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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skytrooper

Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 461 Location: Canandaigua, NY
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Both of my 924's are 5 lug (1987 924S & 1981 924 turbo).
Possibly I am mistaken in the offset _________________ Matt
1987 - 924S "Black Pearl"
1982 - BMW 633CSi
1984 - BMW 528e
1983 - 944 N/A "Blue Max" (Gone)
1981 - 931 "Scarlet Harlot" (Gone)
1976 911S Targa (Gone) |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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You are correct about the 52.3 offset, but Morghen is correct that the rim width is needed to give you an answer. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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skytrooper

Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 461 Location: Canandaigua, NY
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: |
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OK...here are the details
Tires - set of 4 17" Porsche wheels with Hoosier R6 track tires (225 front/255 rear).
Rim width - 7" front and 8.5" rear I believe
The offset is 55 and 50 and the bolt pattern is 5 x 130
They were on my '87 944 Turbo, which was considered "late" offset. I
believe the rims originally came from either a Boxster or a 911
I am thinking that these may be too large _________________ Matt
1987 - 924S "Black Pearl"
1982 - BMW 633CSi
1984 - BMW 528e
1983 - 944 N/A "Blue Max" (Gone)
1981 - 931 "Scarlet Harlot" (Gone)
1976 911S Targa (Gone) |
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joecitizennn

Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 2096 Location: no mans land
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| I bet they will work. You may have to run a 245s on the rear if the 255s rub |
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Rasta Monsta

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: |
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I have 225s on the rear (on 8s), and they are 1/2 inch from rubbing my rolled fender. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9102 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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ok....i'm 75% sure that you will have a clearence problem with the fronts. The only way to find out is put the wheels on your car. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
https://www.the924.com |
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skytrooper

Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 461 Location: Canandaigua, NY
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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I do not think that is is any way that these will fit a stock 924S. _________________ Matt
1987 - 924S "Black Pearl"
1982 - BMW 633CSi
1984 - BMW 528e
1983 - 944 N/A "Blue Max" (Gone)
1981 - 931 "Scarlet Harlot" (Gone)
1976 911S Targa (Gone) |
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Brockoli

Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 621 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: |
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what is a rolled fender? i understand it gives you more space but how is it done? _________________ '80 924 M471,Wideband O2, Full coilover susp,23/19 sways,Bilstiens,KLA Strut Brace,Roll Bar,Test Pipe,BBS RS, Willwood BBK
25% of a '87 944 Chumpcar http://straightpipe.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=2454
'79 924 Sebring Edition(Sitting) |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Rolling the fender is squashing down the perpendicular lip on the inside edge of the fender.
*click*
There are different approaches, including a special tool that bolts to your hub as well as a baseball bat. I found it very easy with channel locks. I used a piece of particle board wrapped in a shop towel to protect the paint, and put a piece of heater hose on the jaw of the pliers to minimize loss of coating on the inside. Crunch, crunch, crunch, work along the radius of the wheel arch.
FWIW, the fronts were factory rolled on my car, but not the rears. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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joecitizennn

Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 2096 Location: no mans land
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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I know for a fact that 7" and 8" 16s can be fit under a 924s with a 52mm offset, and tires having a 55 and 50 AR . While I am not qulaified to say crap about 17s, I do think with maybe a 205 40 in the front and a 225 35 tire in the back they would fit. Maybe even a 245 35 in the back. If the tires and the rims are coming as one deal, insist on trying them first.
Are these porsche rims or some aftermarket horror? |
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skytrooper

Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 461 Location: Canandaigua, NY
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: |
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They are porsche rims, but I think that 17's are going to be way too big. 16's maybe if they weren't as wide as these. _________________ Matt
1987 - 924S "Black Pearl"
1982 - BMW 633CSi
1984 - BMW 528e
1983 - 944 N/A "Blue Max" (Gone)
1981 - 931 "Scarlet Harlot" (Gone)
1976 911S Targa (Gone) |
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joecitizennn

Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 2096 Location: no mans land
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| Are you sure of the rim widths? The tires suggest 8 and 10 inch wide rims. Or at the very least 7 and 9 |
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Neil924

Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 4225 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| joecitizennn wrote: | | Are you sure of the rim widths? The tires suggest 8 and 10 inch wide rims. Or at the very least 7 and 9 |
They suggest a 9 up front and a 10 in the rear, I *should have* 305's in the back but can only fit a 245 on the rear and a measly 225 up front. I have 9's on the front and 10's on the back.
If you can fit the proper tire to the rim, I suggest doing so. |
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