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Cedric
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 Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:05 pm Post subject: New product, CNC ported 924 head from mittlemotor |
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I read about this on the mittlemotor site, looks really pretty. Although financially sensible mostly for historic rally and racing cars, pretty expensive for a hobby car. But a good indication of what to expect with a good ported (15hp) head as only modification.
http://www.mittelmotor.de/content/news/activenews_view.asp?articleID=128
edit: updated the link
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The gain was expected but it is ridiculously expensive.
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Cedric
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| gegge wrote: | | The gain was expected but it is ridiculously expensive. |
2-3 k euros for a complete head might not be that crazy if you build an historic rally car for 10-20k eur. But for a regular enthusiast its a lot of cash. Mittlemotor seems though to have a high price strategy in most areas 
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Raceboy
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Article not found...
I would buy the head if it was 16v head made of new billet and without water/oil channels through head gasket but rather via hoses outside the head.
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ideola
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Raceboy wrote: | Article not found...
I would buy the head if it was 16v head made of new billet and without water/oil channels through head gasket but rather via hoses outside the head. |
Most of that would not be allowed for historics...
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Cedric
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| ideola wrote: | | Raceboy wrote: | Article not found...
I would buy the head if it was 16v head made of new billet and without water/oil channels through head gasket but rather via hoses outside the head. |
Most of that would not be allowed for historics... |
And thus have a microscopic target audience..
Interesting that they took it down from the website so fast, I wonder why...
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Tanso
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:54 am Post subject: |
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You can see the cylinder head in their webshop.
1750 euros. Ready to bolt on.
You can also send in your own head and they do the porting for 700 euros! That is a very good price actually.
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morghen
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Do they do the trick on the turbo head as well?
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Cedric
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:53 am Post subject: |
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The pics are up on the website again, this time with dyno numbers!
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daniel
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1750 EUROS For a brand new head all setup and ready to go for racing? Sounds like a bargain. If I was doing a motor from scratch I would seriously consider it.
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Is it a complete head with cam, valves, and everything? If so, killer deal..
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gegge
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| Fasteddie313 wrote: | | Is it a complete head with cam, valves, and everything? If so, killer deal.. |
Gesamtpreis Zylinderkopf, Nockenwelle, starre GTS Stößel, vormontiert und eingestellt € 3.199,-
Complete head, cam, valves ready to go = $3600  It´s a killer alright!
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ideola
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Big valve head with hard-faced cam and all the labor here is about $2600 all-in. For only $1K more you get brand new head and cam? Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
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morghen
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:05 am Post subject: |
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You can always send your old head for them to do the trick on it and then its much cheaper. Especially for the turbo head...and if you own a GT/GTS 3k is not a problem.
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Cedric
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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1750 that was the price in the webshop is now updated to 2095 eur as in their news page. My interpretation is that that is complete with new valves in standard size.
The prices gegge is refering to is with racing cam and lightweight tappets?
Any one else that can clear this up, preferably with more german skills than me ?
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