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Rotor Chris

Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Griffin, GA
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: Long Distance Towing |
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Whats the problem with towing a rear wheel drive car on a toe dolly? I've heard of overheating differentials and transmissions. Also, you guys see any problems with towing it on two wheels? If I pull the drive axles and remove the muffler. Thanks sorry if this sounds stupid, but Uhaul is expensive and the price is halved if I just do a toe dolly not a flat bed. I'm trying to toe from Atlanta to Dallas. Thanks
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Rotor Chris

Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Griffin, GA
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, is there a toe bar that works for our cars? I was looking, but it seemed like I couldn't get the ball low enough to not damage the air cooler. |
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924guy

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 2088 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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no need to pull the axles so long as its a manual tranny, though you can if you feel the need. Ive "dollied" my 931 several times, at an average of 900 miles at a time and never an issue. just make sure the tranny fluid is topped off before you leave and after you get there and check for heat back there every so often, just in case.
in order to use a tow bar the front bumper will have to be removed, and an attachment point / bracket fudged with until it works properly, dolly is much safer and easier imo. _________________ Eric
78 924
82 931 SE "smokey"
99' VehiCross
Y2K Honda Insight
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9105 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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i would drop the drive axles as the angle might affect the way the oil is getting to some parts of the gearbox....you never know it.
But then you'd have another issue...dust and dirt will get into the wheel hubs and you will need to apply more grease. After finished towing you sould clean that up and use new grease.
However i would just rent a flat bed and tow that myself. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:11 am Post subject: |
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A full trailer is just about the same rent charge as a tow dolly, and you get the advantage of brakes, and the ability to back up.
The only disadvantage that I can see is that the full trailer weighs a lot more, and UHaul may refuse to rent you a full trailer because the tow capacity of the vehicle you want to use may be too low.
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| gohim wrote: | | A full trailer is just about the same reant charge as a tow dolly |
A full trailer is at least double the cost of a dolly in my neck of the woods, and I think that's what the OP stated as well.
I've never understood the argument that towing the car on the back wheels only will cause unacceptable heat gain in the gearbox. It certainly can't be any worse than if the car is actually being driven! _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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tuurbo

Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1446 Location: East Windsor, New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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I've towed a Porsche from NJ to ON with no problem.
Well, maybe a few hairy moments, but no more than with a trailer.
Best thing you can do is make friends with a guy that has a double axle car trailer who likes Scotch and buy him a bottle of LaPhroaig. _________________ 1980 924 turbo, MSD, Meth. Inj, otherwise stock. |
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: |
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I've done 3-4 dolly and trailer rentals this year (dragging home MKIII VWs).
Paid the same price to rent a dolly or a trailer from UHaul.
Guess UHaul is using regional pricing like many other retailers.
The crazy part is I can phone (3) AutoZone and (3) Kragen Auto Parts stores in three directions (west, south, & east) from my house that are all 5 miles, or less from me, and get two or three different price quotes for the same part number from each of the companies. They call that competitive local retail pricing. I call it BS.
You might want to try a different UHaul Store. |
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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With no load on the gears, I'd be surprised if there were a problem doing this with the gearbox completely dry.
With any reasonable amout of gear oil in the transaxle, there will be absolutely no issues, provided you leave it in neutural, and disengage the hand brake (duh!). _________________ 78 924 NA
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: |
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FYI,
Most manual transmissions are lubricated simply by the movement of the gears within the case.
So as long as there is fluid in the transaxle and you don't let it fall into gear, you'll be fine.
Automatics tend to need an external oil pump (if the transmission doesn't have an internal pump driven by the output shaft, which is common on FWD vehicles)
Either way, you can look at RV forums to find out about specifics on using tow-bars, flat towing, etc. _________________ Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
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Rotor Chris

Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Griffin, GA
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks guys this helps me a ton. I've tryed calling different uhauls and all the prices seem to be the same. Its about 460 for a flat bad, I could probably buy one for that price, and 231 for a dolly. |
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