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931 twinturbo  



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Desperate need of drawings for 924 GTR engine??? :D Reply with quote

I have tons of 924 and 931 parts in my garage. Few days ago a friend and me talked about building a 924 GTR spec engine... Both my friend and me knows itīs not a cheap engine build, but with a tons off parts and good spirit we thought, why not....

But we need a complete spec list and parts list.....
So if anyone have a complete list and pictures, please email me...

The plan is to collect parts one more year, to my 931 twinturbo project are finshed. Then start on a 924 CGTR replica...

Email: kalle924@online.no

(sorry my english is not 100%)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That means you should start collecting 2.5L turbo parts.. Not gonna be cheap. The motor budget will be twice what you've sunk into your entire 931TT project.
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931 twinturbo  



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it would not be cheap....
The 924 GTR is a 2l with base in the 924 2litre engine.... The 924 GTP is 2,5L 16v.....

924 GTR



Link on the engine:
http://images.google.no/imgres?imgurl=http://www.utzon.se/gamla/937/PIC00043.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.utzon.se/gamla/937/924E.html&usg=__uCVgHmvXEgs0gBMoK-wdLyBXoAs=&h=308&w=531&sz=22&hl=no&start=95&tbnid=-f77qKzYGpC1HM:&tbnh=77&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPorsche%2B924%2BGTR%26start%3D80%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Dno%26sa%3DN

http://www.356-911.com/post1974/modernspottersguide/porsche924cgtrpage2.htm

924 GTP




If iīm not far out.....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably are correct.

GT, GTR, GTS, GTP...

I thought the GTR had the 2.5, my bad. I'll enjoy your build though.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to pick nits, but if you're ordering by HP, I think it is GT, GTS, GTR, GTP...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect...
Pics, spec, anyone?????
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the only pic I could find. I have no idea where it's from or if it is from a factory car.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,

Yes, that is the factory engine, whereas Peter Uzon's pictures are of a home brew version, albeit with a couple of factory GTR parts.
FWIW, don't even think about trying to build a replica GTR engine. Firstly, the parts were made in such small quantities, they will be pretty much unavailable now, or if they are available, at a cost that would make you faint. I have a friend who campaigns an FIA accredited 911, and the mechanical fuel injection pump alone costs thousands . Secondly, with the advances in modern electronics, you can build an engine that will meet the GTR's power levels much more reliably. There are a few here who have done this, like myself, Joakim ect.
So if historically correct is your goal, good luck, i hope you are fantastically wealthy. If power is your goal, let the search function be your friend.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bass gt...

It`s no problem to make an engine with the same power, but thatīs not the same fun...

I know that it would cost a lot of money, but my goal is to make it so close i can to the orginal engine. So it donīt need to be 100% correct... But close...
I need the part list so i can part out what i can buy, what i have to make and whatīs impossible to get hold on....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well fine do it...but first get your twin turbo 931 ready and show yourself at the Nuerburgring this summer.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The twinturbo project are put aside for next winter...
I didnīt have enough room for twinturbo project and 944S... 944S are almost finish know, just waiting for fixing some dents and paint...
Iīm starting in a new job 1.march, so donīt know if i get a vacation this summer.... When are the meeting at Nuerburgring?? Last year, was it nice???
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be historically correct, you'll need something like this (intercooler):


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yepp.... Can you make me one???
But i think the original have one outlet in the midle of the top and in the midle on the downside.... If iīm not wrong...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, this is the exact original end-tank layout of the GTR intercooler. Peter Utzon used to have a pic of the conplete GTR engine together with intercooler on his site but no more.

I could make you one if you find the core. I bought the core from Dan (ideola).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be super nice.... But where can i find the big core????
Any suggestion?? Truck intercooler??
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