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sdelasal
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 20 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:42 pm Post subject: temperature gauge - idle verses coasting |
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On the road, the temperature generally sits just below the 3rd mark - the one halfway between the red zone and the half way mark. Temperature will occasionally wander down to the half way mark.
When the car is idling, temperature will creep up past the 3rd mark and the fans will kick on and the temperature drops to just below half way mark. This proves to me that the fan works and is able to pull enough air across the radiator to cool the engine - so both fan and radiator are okay and the thermostat is open enough for the cooled flow to get thru to the sensor.
Now for the puzzling bit - on an open road at about 70MPH, I knock gear into neutral and coast down to 30MPH. Now the temperature just stays under the 3rd mark. I would expect it to drop to the half way mark as the airflow across the radiator must be somewhat similar to that from the fans when i'm stopped.
Anyone any ideas why that happens?
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Airflow through the toofah front end is not that great, and gets worse when people "delete" the belly pan. Is yours still in place? _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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sdelasal
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 20 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| yep - belly pan still in place |
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edredas

Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: |
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There is probably too much air in the cooling system. When bled correctly, it should take about 5 minutes of idling on an 80 degree day before the fans kick on. At freeway speeds, the needle should sit just below the second mark, and when driving slow it should sit just above it.
This should always be the case; belly pan or not. The purpose of the belly pan is to keep road debris out of your belts. _________________ '84 944 -White, Brown interior
'84 944 -Red, Automatic
'86 944 -Garnet, Fully loaded, Koni suspension
'87 924S -Red, 300hp 951 swap
'87 924S -Red, Project Car
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dvalmont136
Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Posts: 98 Location: Columbus, OH
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| edredas wrote: | There is probably too much air in the cooling system. When bled correctly, it should take about 5 minutes of idling on an 80 degree day before the fans kick on. At freeway speeds, the needle should sit just below the second mark, and when driving slow it should sit just above it.
This should always be the case; belly pan or not. The purpose of the belly pan is to keep road debris out of your belts. |
Not trying to hijack a thread here, but I did login this morning with the intentions of starting a similar thread...
Holiday traffic, 60's outside, last night i'm stuck stop&go probably an average of 7mph for about 45 minutes. After speeds of 70+ for 1/2 hour. My temperature gauge normal driving hovers between 1/2 and 3/4 usually. Stuck in traffic i'm hovering 3/4 to a hair under the red.
I got pretty nervous and opened the windows and put heater full blast for about half hour with little noticeable difference, maybe a little cooler (definately not me!).
So I tried turning heater off and it continued to hover again, 3/4 to hair under red. Normal???
Ok to drive that hot as long as not in red? Any checks or fixes I should be looking into?
Thanks! _________________ 80 931 <RIP - Change your Timing Belt!>
88 924S Stock/Auto/SaratogaTop/WilksChip
12 FXT Touring
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edredas

Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I would definitely check the cooling fans.
http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/cool-01.htm
However, I once had my gauge showing that I was over heating. I pulled the car over and popped the hood only to find the engine still cold, (I'd only driven about a mile.) I got back in the car I hit the gauge and it started reading right again. When I got home I took it apart and cleaned the contacts and it's been fine since. _________________ '84 944 -White, Brown interior
'84 944 -Red, Automatic
'86 944 -Garnet, Fully loaded, Koni suspension
'87 924S -Red, 300hp 951 swap
'87 924S -Red, Project Car
'88 924S -Red, Daily Driver |
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sdelasal
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 20 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Just to close this one out, I found that the bottom rows of the rad were not doing their job & so I replaced the rad. After numerous attempts at bleeding, the gauge now sits just above 1/2 way when on the road - creeping up to 3/4 at idle when the fans come on.
In hindsight, I suspect that more effort on bleeding would have helped the original situation. I ended up driving around with a 12mm wrench and pulling over when the gauge registered 'too hot' then venting any air via the bleed screw. Took a couple of days before it stopped. |
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