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jessy1984  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: polish gulliedeckel aluminium wheels ?? Reply with quote

hi while working om my 924 this weekend i wanted to polish my weels
i cleaned one and wanted to polich them but i cant get them right

i tried by wetsanding them but the aluminium is to hard i think it has magnesium in it i tried polishing them also with an aluminium polich and also with a polish for valve seats with no result



so how do you guys do this to get them to almost chrome
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time and patience. what grit of sandpaper are you finishing with before you polish?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BionicBalls wrote:
Time and patience. what grit of sandpaper are you finishing with before you polish?

with a 600 wet but without any result its to hard aluminium sanding them gives the same result like it is right now just removes the dirt
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in the US we have a product called Easy Off oven cleaner that worked for me. It will remove the coating on the wheels. You can then polish the wheels with metal polish. In the how section of this site it explains in detail how to do it with the least amount of work.
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Smoothie  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1^
The flat wheels (aka- trashcan lids, or "928 wheels") are anodized. Anodizing produces
a very hard surface. Easy-Off (basically lye in a spray can) removes anodization and
makes sanding-polishing much easier..
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jessy1984  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoothie wrote:
+1^
The flat wheels (aka- trashcan lids, or "928 wheels") are anodized. Anodizing produces
a very hard surface. Easy-Off (basically lye in a spray can) removes anodization and
makes sanding-polishing much easier..


thx i'll try this so this is also on the inside of the wheels ? i'll try it on the inside on a small spot first
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its kind of like getting in a zone . Cause it takes alot of time.
Sanding is what takes time. Get a bowl of soapy water. Just sand
dont push to hard, though do push hard enough. Just know you could do this for 3 hrs before you started getting somewhere.. After the oven cleaner removes the anadizing youll get better results. Keep us posted big guy, ok Jessy1984. Doesnt Ideola aka /Dan Becket have a post on a chart topping trash can lid polishing technique he did.

As I remember he used a dishwasher also. Or maybe it was an oven any
way look at his post.

You can look at my wheel post to get the name of the polish you should
use. Mothers aluminum wheel polish is good then youll need a wheel wax sealer also.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I followed Vince's instruction, only on mine, I found that I had to leave the EasyOff on the wheels for at least TWICE the amount of time as in his writeup. I'm not suggesting you do this, as it could be variable with different sets of wheels depending on the condition of the finish. Also, I can confirm what Vince mentions in that writeup about the standard EasyOff vs. the scented stuff. The scented stuff did not work nearly as well. Stick with the standard Extra Strength oven cleaner.

When I did mine, it took 3 applications per wheel, leaving each application to sit for 10 minutes. By the third time, I was able to scrub the finish off with a scotch bright pad. Then it was just a matter of sanding and polishing. I used Mother's Aluminum Polish. Worked great.

Here's my writeup: Vince would be proud
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jessy1984 Good luck Amigo.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

600 grit is kinda grainy. I went all the way to 2000 grit with my wheels. I guess it all depends on the cut of the polish that you are using in the end. I originally tried stopping at 1000 grit but I kept getting fine sand scratches after polishing that were annoying me, but I'm kinda OCD about my car. So that's why I went all the way to 2000 grit which got rid of them.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea i have to do the same. Seems theres some scratches that were put there as I had to run a wire wheel in a groove that runs around the flukes
in a circle on the fuches style rim. Dont want those scratches to be seen really. I did this after alot of sanding close to the groove wouldnt remove
dark crud that i couldnt get. After that i didnt spend much time sanding there. It does take alot of work & a clear head. All the crud is gone just those scratches remain. They wont polish out even after using a buffing compound before the polish.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats up, are you gonna give the EASY OFF a go next weekend?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joes924Racer wrote:
Whats up, are you gonna give the EASY OFF a go next weekend?


i had some time today and tryed a few things out
now the oven cleaner isnt workin, on the bottle it says dont put it on aluminium so must be something true in it
i started looking at the chemicals in this and found it its natriumhydroxide that removes the coating.

this cant be found in a store
in oven cleaner is a small amaunt of this 3%
now where can you find it unplugger for drain or how do you call this
this is a lot stronger 15% natriumhydroxide and dous work better i have let this set for 30min now i can rub the coating off still hard to get it off but it workes

if you do this do it outside and use gloves

i 'm gonne do some more work on it this weekend i 'll keep you up to date

thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got pics.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here 's a pic after i removed most of the coating
i didnt have much time to do more but tried on a small part to see what is under it as you can see in the pic
there is a lot of damage i think from salt over the years
this i think wont be able to get it out maybe just santblast them
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