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Bockscar

Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:44 am Post subject: Ignition key and door keys one in the same? |
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| Unlike some cars of their era, do 924's use the same key for the ignition, hatch and doors? I'm curious because end of my key is about to break off (hanging by a thread, literally!) and I wonder if it would be easier for the lock smith to take the door handle off and have him make a new key based on the lock cylinder in the door. |
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joe b

Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 131 Location: McKinleyville, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Well I know mine does. Can't speak for all 924s though _________________ 1980 931 |
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staticsan
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 450 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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I thought almost all cars from that era had the same key for (nearly) everything. My '82 Sigma did, as did my '71 Mini.
A locksmith will greatly appreciate a cylinder to work from as well as the key that is supposed to work in it. I know this because my brother has been a locksmith for years.
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Bockscar

Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| staticsan wrote: | | I thought almost all cars from that era had the same key for (nearly) everything. |
Maybe it was the 90s then. Good to know though. I'll find out tomorrow and let everyone know. |
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Rich H
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 2665 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Normal problem is the car has been broken into and the lock replaced. My old car had 3 keys, one for the doors, one for the ignition and one for the boot/trunk!
A full lock set is expensive, a single lock isn't! _________________ 1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Wonder what the goin US rate is 2 get a key made from a tumbler.
I need it done too. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:39 am Post subject: |
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isnt a key bout 30 US dollars. Locksmith fee between 40 & 60 dollars.
Id guess. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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joejax

Joined: 02 Dec 2009 Posts: 919 Location: Jacksonville,FLA,USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: |
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My driver's side lock is opened by a flat head screwdriver , not good, I'm going to try to swap it to the passenger side, fill the keyhole with epoxy and take the hatch barrel to get a key made. Hopefully it's the same key . _________________ I got nothin'
Uhhh...you got any pics? |
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Bockscar

Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Got it done. Took the entire door handle off and they made keys for me there at the lock smith. There's a number code on the inside of the door handle itself that tells what position the tumbler pins should be in, I guess. I got 2 keys made for $22.
The catch is that now I have a key for the drivers side door and the ignition.. Apparently the passenger side door and hatch are different! Also, whats the little keyhole next to the drivers door for? |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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What does a haynes manual say about it... hmmm
Ill have to look. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1378 Location: Holland
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Ignition key and door keys one in the same? |
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^Read up on rekeying: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3496179 (Kudos to reallybigbadbob & scirocco*joe)
| Bockscar wrote: | | Also, whats the little keyhole next to the drivers door for? |
Factory Installed Car Alarm. …Since you are not using it, it might be a source to rebuild a fresh new lock?
Cheers, Harm. _________________ Porsche 924 NA 1982 LY7A/A3A3 _ Greater driving pleasure never harmed anyone. |
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Bockscar

Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Ah very interesting about the factory car alarm. When the restoration is further along, I'll check into that.
Also, it turns out that the new key does indeed with for all the locks on the car (except for that fancy car alarm lock). However, I can't open the hatch. I can get the key to turn all the way, and I see the mechanism in the hatch moving but, the hatch won't budge. Am I missing something? |
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joe b

Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 131 Location: McKinleyville, CA
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Are you lifting the hatch when the key is turned?  _________________ 1980 931 |
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bnoon
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 607 Location: West Des Moines, IA USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| Bockscar wrote: | Ah very interesting about the factory car alarm. When the restoration is further along, I'll check into that.
Also, it turns out that the new key does indeed with for all the locks on the car (except for that fancy car alarm lock). However, I can't open the hatch. I can get the key to turn all the way, and I see the mechanism in the hatch moving but, the hatch won't budge. Am I missing something? |
You are turning the key to the left, aren't you??? It seems backwards to me, but the hatch key turns to the left to release. At least on my 80 931 it does. _________________ '80 924 Turbo - SOLD!
1986 Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD!
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Bockscar

Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| bnoon wrote: | | You are turning the key to the left, aren't you??? It seems backwards to me, but the hatch key turns to the left to release. At least on my 80 931 it does. |
Yup, I sure am. I'm lifting up while turning the key too. It's probably just rusty or seized. The crummy part is that on the inside of the hatch, there are spider webs so thick that it looks like it is foggy back there. Not really looking forward to climbing back there to figure out whats up with the locking mechanism  |
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