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bkantelis
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 50
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:03 am Post subject: Running great, now disaster and need help |
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Self inflicted on top of things I believe. 79 924NA sat for about 4 years while I worked on it. New injectors, wires, dist cap, plugs, fuel pumps (both), fuel filter, flushed tank.
Lit it up and it ran just fine. Filled the tank and added......1 can seafoam. Drove about 25 miles, ran great.
Sat for a day. Starts fine, idles a little rough, press the pedal and pop, sputter and die. Repeat forever.
Emptied the gas tank of now light brown gas. Replaced fuel filter (dirty), cleaned fouled plugs. cleaned gunky injectors, pulled in-tank pump and the filter on it was perfectly clean.
Same problem but I also notice that the fuel pumps do not seem to stop when you turn the key, they continue to run instead of the usual pulse then silence.
Any pointers on diagnosing this mess would be appreciated.
Regards,
Bruce _________________ 1979 NA 924
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emoore924
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Frustrating I'm sure, but disaster, perhaps not.
Given that all was well before the sea foam application, all that might be required is the cleanout of the fuel system, the reintroduction of clean fuel and you should be ok. Might mean cleaning the tank, lines, accumulator, filters, etc., but I would think you'd be ok after that.... |
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bkantelis
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Cleaned the tank again as well as the injectors and plugs. The injectors and plugs looked ok and the pattern from the injectors was good. With fresh gas, same problem. Something else going on. _________________ 1979 NA 924
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scm924s
Joined: 22 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Gloucester UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Possibly clogged filter in the WUR? _________________ 1984 n/a Ruby Red Metallic
1988 924S Guards red- sold
1986 924S Guards Red - sold
1984 n/a Black - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#1 - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#2- sold
1977 Martini - sold |
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1378 Location: Holland
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:30 am Post subject: |
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bkantelis
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Driving me crazy. Brand new wur, no clogs anywhere, replaced dizzy, tested the fuel pumps and pulled the internal pump and filter is clean. Replaced filter in the engine bay. Plenty of fuel flowing. Idles fine, give it a little throttle and it starts popping and dies, never gets over 1000 rpm _________________ 1979 NA 924
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scm924s
Joined: 22 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Gloucester UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:32 am Post subject: |
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My '77 Martini is behaving just like that. Been stood for 12 years, fires easily and won't pick up and keeps dying. Eventually found if you fire it up on part throttle and hold it about 2/2.5k revs it will run with a fair bit of popping and spitting until it warms up and then it's OK, just don't let the revs drop.
Obviously a cold start problem, if you have a new WUR, only leaves the AAV and cold start valve? You have no vacuum leaks? _________________ 1984 n/a Ruby Red Metallic
1988 924S Guards red- sold
1986 924S Guards Red - sold
1984 n/a Black - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#1 - sold
1980 n/a Le Mans#2- sold
1977 Martini - sold |
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1378 Location: Holland
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:29 am Post subject: Re: Running great, now disaster and need help |
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| bkantelis wrote: | | Driving me crazy. Brand new wur, no clogs anywhere, replaced dizzy, tested the fuel pumps and pulled the internal pump and filter is clean. Replaced filter in the engine bay. Plenty of fuel flowing. Idles fine, give it a little throttle and it starts popping and dies, never gets over 1000 rpm |
— firing order/zundfolge 1-3-4-2. Triple check.
— Popping (unburnt gas) sounds as if your timing is out of line. Check the vacuum lines and retard/advance with a timing light pointing at the cam. (Euro's only have advance btw.)
HTH _________________ Porsche 924 NA 1982 LY7A/A3A3 _ Greater driving pleasure never harmed anyone. |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Check for vacuum leaks. Hook up a vacuum gauge and report back what you see when the car is idling. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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