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DLC360  



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:15 am    Post subject: 1987 924s A/C removal questions. Reply with quote

When I bought my 924s, the PO told me that the A/C system was good, but has not been charge or used in quite some time. If I converted the system it should be fine and work again.

Well, I have ben thinking about just removing the A/C completely. I have found a bracket & new belt for this for $175.00 at 944online parts, I was wondering if there was another source for this or is that the best way to go.
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Paul  



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much to gain by removing it, I suggest you save the money for your next front of engine service.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bracket are you talking about, and why do you think you need to replace a bracket???

The question of whether to remove or repair really comes down to whether you can stand to be in the car in the hot humid Ohio valley summers. It sucks to lose driving days because it's too hot to be in the car!

In any event, you will probably need to have the AC system converted over to R134a, unless the PO did that already. The charging ports and condenser should be clearly marked if the system has been converted.

There are a ton of threads over on Pelican that talk about the pros and cons of recharging with stuff like Freeze12 vs. doing the conversion. Your decision should be based partly on whether you want to tackle doing the recharge yourself or if you plan to take it somewhere. To DIY, you need some special equipment (not too expensive at Harbor Freight). Very few shops I know of will do anything other than the R134a, and even fewer will do the conversion.

I just had the R134a conversion done on one of my cars this past summer. It was not cheap, mainly because the seals in the compressor were blown. These compressors are not really "locally serviceable"...they can be rebuilt, but I've not had any success finding a local place to do it, so I just bit the bullet and did the core exchange for a remanufactured unit.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, lets start with what I know about the A/C system already.
The PO told me that when he got the car in '98 the A/C did work, but not very well. He never did anything to it and over the years has quit cooling and he said he just quit thinking about it. everything is still there, and the compresor still spins free. I have not tried to turn on the compresor yet to see what happens. The PO said "you should just be able to convert it, recharge it and youll be ok". I know its not that easy since seals dry out and some need to be changed. I looked into a convertion kit, but dont feel like putting almost $600 into that.

Thats when I found this.
http://www.944online.com/cgi-bin/ASI_Store.cgi?Product+skukey_20053968+924s+924sclimate-924s

As far as the hot summers, yea A/C would be nice, but at what cost.. LOL Yes I would rather put that $600 into maint & upgrades than worry about a little cold air. I'm happy with 2-70 A/C right now.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bracket pictured is a factory piece that moves the alternator down into the position usually occupied by the compressor on a 2.5. This allows the factory tensioning bar to be used.

They have the same setup cheaper at Paragon, a cool aftermarket piece at Lindsey for more, and if you Google "Cheap DIY ac delete" you can find a junkyard solution.

I can tell you the delete represents a good chunk of weight, and even if the a/c is working perfectly it still sucks.
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DLC360  



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
The bracket pictured is a factory piece that moves the alternator down into the position usually occupied by the compressor on a 2.5. This allows the factory tensioning bar to be used.

They have the same setup cheaper at Paragon, a cool aftermarket piece at Lindsey for more, and if you Google "Cheap DIY ac delete" you can find a junkyard solution.

I can tell you the delete represents a good chunk of weight, and even if the a/c is working perfectly it still sucks.


Thanks for the tips. I am still trying to find all the good places to get parts. There is a big range of price for the same items from differant dealers.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I picked up my SE the compressor was bypassed with a smaller belt.
Don't know how they pried it on but it worked fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLC360 wrote:
There is a big range of price for the same items from differant dealers.

Send me a PM with your needs, and I'll be happy to put a quote together for you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy on Pelican has an A/C delete bracket for $70
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-used-parts-sale-wanted/727899-951-parts-sale.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a homemade belt tensioner for years, and it works great.

Here's the directions to make one:
http://www.944spec.org/944SPEC/technical-articles/101-cheap-diy-ac-delete-bracket

I'm also curious if you're going to buy the bracket that ideola linked to? I would like it for my project if you're not interested.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its still available, go for it. thats something im not gonna work on till spring time.
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