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giani
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 Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:23 pm Post subject: reasonable price |
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I just got my clutch kit in and and new clutch cable but I need someone to install it since I dont have any any tools some guy is trying to charge me 500 for the job,whats a reasonable price, 1982 porsche 924 n/a
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jason c
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This is kind of a loaded question. By "some guy" do you mean from a reputable, trusted shop or a guy doing it in his driveway whos main two tools are a hammer & crescent wrench?
This site quotes the job as a 7.5 hour job.
500÷7.5= $66/hour
$65-$85 per hour is what most shops charge.
Additional time may be needed for corrosion & stripped fasteners, common on older cars.
Its unlikely you'll find someone experienced to do it cheaper unless you can find another enthusiast who is willing to help.
Since you're supplying your own parts, its unlikely that there will be a warrantee. You have to decide if its worth it to you to have the car repaired at that price and do you trust the guy doing it. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | By "some guy" do you mean from a reputable, trusted shop or a guy doing it in his driveway whos main two tools are a hammer & crescent wrench? |
Although to be honest the two main tools at my shop are a hammer and a bfh.
I would suggest getting a few quotes from shops in your area. I would not necessarily go with the cheapest, but shopping around will give you a better idea what the work costs in your area. Familiarity and previous experience with 924's would be a big plus.
Also keep in mind that unexpected problems might arise that will take more time/money (e.g. your flywheel needs to be machined).
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fiat22turbo
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Clutch installs on the 924/944 aren't cheap labor wise. Figure about 40 hours to do it.
Personally? I'd get a Hayne's manual and then hit up pawn shops, Sears Outlet and Harbor Freight to buy some basic metric hand tools, a jack and a set of jack stands and go at it. Its fairly straight forward and detailed in the Hayne's manual and its just mostly labor involved.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| fiat22turbo wrote: | | Clutch installs on the 924/944 aren't cheap labor wise. Figure about 40 hours to do it. |
Let's see...jack up one side of car, take a swig of beer, put jack stands under car, take a swig of beer, set car down on jack stands, take a swig of beer, bring floor jack to other side of car, go get another beer...
Now I see how it could take five 8 hour days  !
Just yankin' your chain a bit my friend, but I think if it takes someone 40 hours to do a clutch install they might rethink their occupational choice. Even a novice with a modicum of mechanical ability should get it done in no more than twice flat rate time.
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fiat22turbo
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I'll have to find the reference (maybe I misread it). I'm not saying it can't be done faster (I've done it once myself and another time even faster with Rasta's help) and it was much faster than that.
Either way, expect it to take a couple of weekend's worth of work the first time you do it.
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giani
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| jason c wrote: | This is kind of a loaded question. By "some guy" do you mean from a reputable, trusted shop or a guy doing it in his driveway whos main two tools are a hammer & crescent wrench?
This site quotes the job as a 7.5 hour job.
500÷7.5= $66/hour
$65-$85 per hour is what most shops charge.
Additional time may be needed for corrosion & stripped fasteners, common on older cars.
Its unlikely you'll find someone experienced to do it cheaper unless you can find another enthusiast who is willing to help.
Since you're supplying your own parts, its unlikely that there will be a warrantee. You have to decide if its worth it to you to have the car repaired at that price and do you trust the guy doing it. |
the "guy" is off someone on Craigslist with over 38 years experience on german cars supposedly but I think he just wants to hustle me, then my friends family mechanic that works at a Volkswagen dealership said he would only charge 250 for the job but I have to get the tow truck etc which will come out to 350 ish and I have my moms mechanic trying to match the price but hasnt notified me yet but I dont really trust them
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| fiat22turbo wrote: | | ...get a Hayne's manual and then hit up pawn shops, Sears Outlet and Harbor Freight to buy some basic metric hand tools, a jack and a set of jack stands and go at it. |
+1
This way you will also be able to do maintenance on your car in the future.
See this as a long term investment, on the tools and skills...not the car.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| I did the clutch in my four speed 924 in less than five hours but that's because the four speed cars are easier to do. |
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jason c
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| giani wrote: | | jason c wrote: | This is kind of a loaded question. By "some guy" do you mean from a reputable, trusted shop or a guy doing it in his driveway whos main two tools are a hammer & crescent wrench?
This site quotes the job as a 7.5 hour job.
500÷7.5= $66/hour
$65-$85 per hour is what most shops charge.
Additional time may be needed for corrosion & stripped fasteners, common on older cars.
Its unlikely you'll find someone experienced to do it cheaper unless you can find another enthusiast who is willing to help.
Since you're supplying your own parts, its unlikely that there will be a warrantee. You have to decide if its worth it to you to have the car repaired at that price and do you trust the guy doing it. |
the "guy" is off someone on Craigslist with over 38 years experience on german cars supposedly but I think he just wants to hustle me, then my friends family mechanic that works at a Volkswagen dealership said he would only charge 250 for the job but I have to get the tow truck etc which will come out to 350 ish and I have my moms mechanic trying to match the price but hasnt notified me yet but I dont really trust them |
You'll be better off financially doing it yourself. You have to decide if doing it yourself is the right thing for you. I think $65/hour is pretty close to the bottom end of what foreign car shops charge. 7.5 hours is probably about right for book time. So it doesn't sound like he's hustling you. If he has that much experience, he's not going to do it for peanuts. You have to trust who's doing it so if you don't trust someone find someone else. |
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pcelenta
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| Craigslist? Really? maybe he is confusing the meaning of you have to pull the tranny to do the job. |
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giani
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Allright I finally got under my car took off the clutch inspection plate and turns its just my throw out bearing that went bad my clutch disk is still very thick and has alot to go, but I looked at my throw out bearing and its moving around in there I can rotate it with my finger, what will I need thats new and my cable is still good and the lever pulls on is also, I have a new guide tube and new throw out bearing will I need anything else?
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jason c
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| giani wrote: | | my clutch disk is still very thick and has alot to go |
How can you tell? How are you measuring it?
| giani wrote: | | I looked at my throw out bearing and its moving around in there I can rotate it with my finger |
You should be able to. The release bearing's only function is to apply force from the release fork to the pressure plate fingers, which in turn moves the springs, which then moves the frictional surface- taking clamping pressure off the disk and allowing it to slip. A completely non functioning T.O. bearing will not cause clutch slippage, the opposite will occur where you will not be able to release pressure off the disk. |
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giani
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| jason c wrote: | | giani wrote: | | my clutch disk is still very thick and has alot to go |
How can you tell? How are you measuring it?
| giani wrote: | | I looked at my throw out bearing and its moving around in there I can rotate it with my finger |
You should be able to. The release bearing's only function is to apply force from the release fork to the pressure plate fingers, which in turn moves the springs, which then moves the frictional surface- taking clamping pressure off the disk and allowing it to slip. A completely non functioning T.O. bearing will not cause clutch slippage, the opposite will occur where you will not be able to release pressure off the disk. |
No I didnt actually measure it it just looks like it still has alot of material left or what ever it is,when I have some one push down on the clutch pedal the cable pulls back on the lever and when I look inside the release bearing doesnt move at all I meant I can around with my finger and it kinda of shake in there
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