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chris79  



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:47 am    Post subject: engine run bad Reply with quote

I have new problem with my 924.

The car was almost perfect and I did not make any changes, but engine since yesterday run bad.

When I start engine I see a white smoke, first I suspect head gasket, but water level is not changed.

I hear continuous bursts from the exhaust and maximum speed is 160 km/h.

I recently had this problem only once, I thought the problem was the leakage current, then I have shield battery, but the problem has come back.
All parts out of engine are new or restored.

Do you have suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

remove your spark plugs and check them...
if wet = head/block cracked or head gasket failure
if black = fuel too rich
if white = too lean

take and post pictures of results...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really block or head cracked? :-O
Ahahah jasonc, I try first with hammer at this point
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An easy quick check for a blown head gasket where the leak is between the cylinder and coolant passage is to: with the engine cold, run it for approximately 30 seconds & shut it off. Open the coolant tank cap & listen for pressure to escape.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I made this test and I will update.

For this moment my results are:

oil level not changed;
water level not changed;

but...

water is dirty and I see possible emulsion of water and oil, as you can see:

http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-EceC9AzTk9U/VQ6amvAEmhI/AAAAAAAAAIE/CB5WJggoy9E/w984-h553-no/a2046f93-4e8c-4057-a9dc-c74d0b7c496b



spark:


http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U43uKyTgj8c/VQ6amiKvcyI/AAAAAAAAAIE/tyl-X6YC3FM/w984-h553-no/8ab62cbe-87aa-4750-9736-57d46fbf61bc
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you not suggestions?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possible blown head gasket, do a compression test next.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I made compression test, but White spark?
Co was set one month ago by mechanic.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what were the psi readings for each cylinder?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not instrument, I have to made it.

But white spark and white smoke at startup can not lied to lean mixture ?
Even if I have not change co..
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have oil in the water it is 99.99% blown head gasket or cracked head.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possibile to know if problem is block, head or head gasket before open engine?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is 99.99% not the block (these are strong) but head or head gasket.

But there is no way to determine it before pulling the head. And you need to pull it anyway to fix it. It is a one hour job if you know what you are doing.
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